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Originally posted by PowerSurge:

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by fpuhan:

??? MLB comes down hard on a team for cheating, the owner fires those responsible, and you're done with MLB? I don't get it.

Not only does he want them drawn and quartered, he wants their bodies displayed in the public square.

These penalties are draconian, and I think they are excessive, so I think that believing that they should be even more severe is inexplicable.

You’re a great bloviator, jhe, I’ll give you that.

Are you trying to bring the cancel culture to Sigforum? Is that libtarded behavior ok if it’s your cause?

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Originally posted by berto:


Teams were told to cease using technology to steal signs. The Astros kept using technology to steal signs.

There is dumb, extremely dumb, and pants-on-head stupid.

A team continues doing something they've been explicitly warned to stop doing.......as Mr. Rogers would ask "Can you say deterrence? See, I knew you could"

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

Are you trying to bring the cancel culture to Sigforum? Is that libtarded behavior ok if it’s your cause?

I must've missed the call for canceling someone or something? Two people with dissenting opinions?

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Originally posted by soflaac:

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

Are you trying to bring the cancel culture to Sigforum? Is that libtarded behavior ok if it’s your cause?

I must've missed the call for canceling someone or something? Two people with dissenting opinions?

Be careful. These Trashtros fans sure are touchy.

Guys

The title should be stripped. Just like when the NCAA stripped USC of their championships. The dodgers don’t deserve the title either, they didn’t win it. There should be no champion that year.

All professional sports teams do whatever they can to gain an edge.

If you are a championship caliber team - there are a LOT more eyes on you.

If the Pittsburg Pirates got caught doing the same thing - would anyone care?

Not saying it is Ok to cheat - just saying it is much more widespread in practice than most might believe. (similiar to PED's)

Take their World Series banner away, they were Sloppy in their cheating. A.J has managed his last MLB game . I suspect Cora going to be suspended for multiple years. The away games this year for the Stros should be interesting.

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Originally posted by smschulz:
You know in boxing they say "protect yourself at all times".
Seems if you are sending signals that someone could be watching.
Pretty stupid, IMO.
As far as I am concerned any self-righteous asshole who calls it cheating is just a pussy.

Same goes for the past "Inflate-Gate" bullshit.

Just let 'em play and let the chips fall where they may.

Right, rules mean nothing.

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Originally posted by midwest guy:
Take their World Series banner away, they were Sloppy in their cheating. A.J has managed his last MLB game . I suspect Cora going to be suspended for multiple years. The away games this year for the Stros should be interesting.

Cora could get lifetime. Hinch got a year for not being involved. Cora was the one who set up the video.

Astros 2017 playoff splits. HOME 8-1. AWAY 3-6 .

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hit the trash can with a bat -- and sometimes a Theragun -- to signal to the hitter which pitch was coming

Was that Theragun registered?

I have a Theragun. Really good on the trashcan and body.


Sorry

It has been reported that the venerable drummer, Ringo Star will be added as a free agent signing to the Astros staff upon passing his physical.

The Houston asterisks should have the title vacated

Cheating is cheating. You can fancy up the name and call it “gaming the system”, but at the end of the day, it comes down to a lack of integrity.

I think the penalty was a tad bit light. I think in addition to what was doled out, they should have lost the World Series Title.

if everyone does it , is it wrong ?
it's a game, only a very few people are going hungry because of this cheating

Hey fellas - If I may: What exactly did they do?

Does anyone have the reader's digest version?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by Veeper:
Hey fellas - If I may: What exactly did they do?

Does anyone have the reader's digest version?

Thanks.

Set up a video camera in the outfield. A couple guys in the tunnel behind the dugout would watch the feed. Double bang on a trash can when a change up was being thrown. No bangs for fastballs.

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Originally posted by bendable:
if everyone does it , is it wrong ?
it's a game, only a very few people are going hungry because of this cheating

You could use that argument for the college cheating scandal as well.

It’s a lack of integrity. Everyone here on this forum seems to have a moral compass that is spot on. However when something like this comes up, I scratch my head.

As I said in a previous post, it shows a lack of integrity. If one or all do it, it doesn’t change the direction of the moral compass.

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Originally posted by Beancooker:

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Originally posted by bendable:
if everyone does it , is it wrong ?
it's a game, only a very few people are going hungry because of this cheating

You could use that argument for the college cheating scandal as well.

It’s a lack of integrity. Everyone here on this forum seems to have a moral compass that is spot on.
However when something like this comes up, I scratch my head.

As I said in a previous post, it shows a lack of integrity. If one or all do it, it doesn’t change the direction of the moral compass.

It is nowhere nearly the same as cheating on a college test.
Integrity comparison is bullshit.

Don't want you signals to be heard or seen then protect yourself and either shut up or get creative.
If you are going to "signal" then chances are someone can see it.

Maybe we make it illegal for QB's to read defenses too.

Ever wonder why the coaches cover their mouths when they talk to someone?
Answer: it's to keep their lips from getting read.

Maybe we should BAN stealing a base within the game.

This whole thing is WAY overblown.