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Quote possibly the biggest punitive action take by MLB since Pete Rose was suspended. Will be interesting to see what or, if, Alex Cora gets handed some penalty. MLB hits Astros with huge penalties, Houston fires Hinch, Luhnow: Answering all the questions
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I've always been a casual fan of baseball, but I thought sign stealing was a bit of an arcane pursuit that most teams engaged in. Though taking it to the level the Astros did, the Series win should be stripped. Seems to be the predictable upper echelon of the sport since they've been pretending that steroid abuse isn't ongoing and blatant for so long. <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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I agree. They cheated and were caught. They should’ve had their title taken away. I’m done with MLB after this. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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??? MLB comes down hard on a team for cheating, the owner fires those responsible, and you're done with MLB? I don't get it. The New England Patriots were caught doing the same thing, and I don't see Belichick getting fired, or Kraft getting his panties in a wad. Seems to me MLB did what the NFL ought to. You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member | |||
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I was quite surprised that the Pats got off as easily as they did, though they did get slapped a bit. I get being competitive, but the obsession to win to that degree, may as well allow anything. Plenty of folks will be saying that Belichick will hire them while they serve their suspension from MLB. <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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Not only does he want them drawn and quartered, he wants their bodies displayed in the public square. These penalties are draconian, and I think they are excessive, so I think that believing that they should be even more severe is inexplicable. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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You’re a great bloviator, jhe, I’ll give you that. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Players are still allowed to try to steal signs while standing on or around second base while their team is at bat. The penalty remains a fastball a little more inside than they might like when batting again. That's part of the never ending boys will be boys if you ain't cheating if you ain't trying ethos of the game from the very beginning. Previous shenanigans in the 60s and 70s using scoreboard lights or pitchers on their off day sitting in the bleachers and holding up cards were kinda brushed aside and the the penalty was to replay the game if the cheating team won. Nothing ever came of it. It was a different time, it wasn't rampant (just a few instances), and it was more difficult to transmit actionable information in a timely manner. What's different here is the use of technology and the use of said technology after every team was put on notice to stop. The penalties are fair and I think a broadside to let teams know that there should be no further shenanigans in this area as technology changes and makes this kind of thing easier and perhaps more difficult to detect. | |||
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So I guess the Astros World Series win gets an *** behind it now? Like Bons, McGuire, and Sosa with all their extra "juice". | |||
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You know in boxing they say "protect yourself at all times". Seems if you are sending signals that someone could be watching. Pretty stupid, IMO. As far as I am concerned any self-righteous asshole who calls it cheating is just a pussy. Same goes for the past "Inflate-Gate" bullshit. Just let 'em play and let the chips fall where they may. | |||
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MLB commissioner Manfred just announced an additional penalty. The 2020 Astros uniform will be emblazoned with this logo: https://shop.jomboymedia.com/p...short-sleeve-t-shirt ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Ha ha PowerSurge! jhe is from Texas. Perhaps he's an Astro's fan and is upset his team got caught cheating? Houston should have their title stripped too. It also looks like Cora will be hit hard as well, and rightfully so. Too bad Beltran looks like he will skate. | |||
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"after an MLB investigation found the team used technology to cheat during its World Series-winning 2017 season" The people who not only administrate the actual league, but publish and enforce the rules of the game.........yah, Pussies. You got it pard. What MLB really needs to show us they're Manly Men - RollerBall <>< America, Land of the Free - because of the Brave | |||
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So says the local... Casual fan of baseball, but what’s in the public domain, well, is it really stealing? ========================================== Just my 2¢ ____________________________ Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right ♫♫♫ | |||
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The loss of the 1st and 2nd round draft picks this year and next are huge. As a Mariners fan I like our league and like some things about the Astro's. Liked Hinch, Springer, Bregman, etc. It was huge hammer for sure. The fact the owner fired the manager and GM speaks volumes imho. I knew there would be response's like smschultz I am not happy that they got whacked but think since the hammer was what it was. They probably deserved what they got. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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The actions by MLB were not draconian, sounds like Boston and Alex Cora are next. | |||
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Teams were told to cease using technology to steal signs. The Astros kept using technology to steal signs. | |||
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With the Astros rampant sign stealing I have heard the comment,” there really wasn’t any harm and it is not as severe as the steroid age. So if I’m a pitcher who faced the Astros and my E.R.A is adversely affected because of electronic sign stealing, when I go to arbitration it is costing me big bucks. Steroid abuse was practiced player wide, pitcher and hitters were both cheating hence leveling the playing field. There is no question pitchers were seriously harmed monetarily who faced the Houston Astros. Let the chips fall where they may, we will see how good Altuve and Springer are this year! | |||
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Extremely Draconian is correct. | |||
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