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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
That would be a quick tasing here....

Yep. That is disorderly conduct. It's a ride to jail after we throw them down on their faces.

You guys seriously would go hand to hand or deploy tasers when out numbered 20 to 2? I don't like those odds.

On a side note, why are so many people carrying buckets of water in NYC?

Lots of tools...pepper spray, taser, baton. stand your ground and for fucks sake face the threat. Pick the right person in the group and you can change their behavior. Somebody has to pay. The next cops who have to deal with this group will still have to make this point and they will have to have a more difficult time doing so unless IQ's in that neighborhood suddenly increase. Give em an inch they will take a mile.

I have no sympathy for the coppers involved in this. This specific incident is on them. They let it happen. They walked away from it. I doubt DeBlasio or any other Mayor has told or expects cops to take this and walk away. I doubt ant police bosses have told them to take it and walk away. And I can guarantee you that no cop I know would do what they did. If they tried that with me and the cops I know there would be blood on the streets. Some of it may be mine but that's ok.It's real easy to allow this to happen and then blame other people for your cowardice and or laziness and I understand the concept of going "fetal" but at some point in time you have to put that aside, man up and do your job if even only for self respect. If I were one of those cops involved in this and my family had to watch me slink away like a little kid while some thug dumped water on me, I'd hide my head in shame and they would never see me again. I for one could not under any circumstance live with that.

Spot on GW. I owe you a beer. When I'm out your way (and I will be ) I'll pay my debt to you.

Some of this is on the officers themselves. If they put out an officer needs assistance call, the location would have been flooded with NYPD in a minute. AFAIK, they didn't call for backup.

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I have no sympathy for the coppers involved in this. This specific incident is on them. They let it happen. They walked away from it. I doubt DeBlasio or any other Mayor has told or expects cops to take this and walk away. I doubt ant police bosses have told them to take it and walk away. And I can guarantee you that no cop I know would do what they did. If they tried that with me and the cops I know there would be blood on the streets. Some of it may be mine but that's ok.It's real easy to allow this to happen and then blame other people for your cowardice and or laziness and I understand the concept of going "fetal" but at some point in time you have to put that aside, man up and do your job if even only for self respect. If I were one of those cops involved in this and my family had to watch me slink away like a little kid while some thug dumped water on me, I'd hide my head in shame and they would never see me again. I for one could not under any circumstance live with that.

I'm with you 100%.

I resisted watching the video, because I knew it was going to make me very angry. But, I decided to do it, and it made me even angrier, not because of the thugs (that's a given), but because the coward inaction of the cops. Wow, walking away with your head down looking like a defeated little punk, while they actively dumped shit on you. Totally disgusting to watch. If you're going to be a lawman, act like one. Maybe the anti-cop media has brainwashed you into little pussies afraid of doing your job. Whatever the case, I don't give a damn. You really should find another line of work, like selling flowers or peace signs.

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I have no sympathy for the coppers involved in this. This specific incident is on them. They let it happen. They walked away from it. I doubt DeBlasio or any other Mayor has told or expects cops to take this and walk away. I doubt ant police bosses have told them to take it and walk away. And I can guarantee you that no cop I know would do what they did. If they tried that with me and the cops I know there would be blood on the streets. Some of it may be mine but that's ok.It's real easy to allow this to happen and then blame other people for your cowardice and or laziness and I understand the concept of going "fetal" but at some point in time you have to put that aside, man up and do your job if even only for self respect. If I were one of those cops involved in this and my family had to watch me slink away like a little kid while some thug dumped water on me, I'd hide my head in shame and they would never see me again. I for one could not under any circumstance live with that.

You’re wrong, people outside of places like NYC don’t understand what would happen to an officer who reacted to that. First he or she would be brought before the CCRB, and IAD would begin the investigation to bring criminal charges, especially if caught on video, the DA’s office in all 5 boroughs are more interested in prosecuting cops than criminals, a young ADA that can make a case on a cop is fast tracked. The cop will be placed on modified, no gun, on or off duty, in the precinct doing a no public contact task. The cop will be interrogated by IAB relentlessly and if no criminal charges are brought he will face a department trial, most likely resulting in a rip, suspension or termination decided by the PC who is picked by DiBlasio. The NYPD is a thankless job that with every liberal politician in power gets worse and worse.

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Then why have a gd police force at all?!?

The right way to do this would have been for the officers involved to have put out an officer needs assistance / civil disturbance call. This would have immediately flooded the area with an army of cops, the skels that attacked the cops could have been rounded up and charged with assaulting an officer. Even if they managed slink away, a big response would have showed that they will respond, and in force.

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Originally posted by spunk639:

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I have no sympathy for the coppers involved in this. This specific incident is on them. They let it happen. They walked away from it. I doubt DeBlasio or any other Mayor has told or expects cops to take this and walk away. I doubt ant police bosses have told them to take it and walk away. And I can guarantee you that no cop I know would do what they did. If they tried that with me and the cops I know there would be blood on the streets. Some of it may be mine but that's ok.It's real easy to allow this to happen and then blame other people for your cowardice and or laziness and I understand the concept of going "fetal" but at some point in time you have to put that aside, man up and do your job if even only for self respect. If I were one of those cops involved in this and my family had to watch me slink away like a little kid while some thug dumped water on me, I'd hide my head in shame and they would never see me again. I for one could not under any circumstance live with that.

You’re wrong, people outside of places like NYC don’t understand what would happen to an officer who reacted to that. First he or she would be brought before the CCRB, and IAD would begin the investigation to bring criminal charges, especially if caught on video, the DA’s office in all 5 boroughs are more interested in prosecuting cops than criminals, a young ADA that can make a case on a cop is fast tracked. The cop will be placed on modified, no gun, on or off duty, in the precinct doing a no public contact task. The cop will be interrogated by IAB relentlessly and if no criminal charges are brought he will face a department trial, most likely resulting in a rip, suspension or termination decided by the PC who is picked by DiBlasio. The NYPD is a thankless job that with every liberal politician in power gets worse and worse.

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I have no sympathy for the coppers involved in this. This specific incident is on them. They let it happen. They walked away from it. I doubt DeBlasio or any other Mayor has told or expects cops to take this and walk away. I doubt ant police bosses have told them to take it and walk away. And I can guarantee you that no cop I know would do what they did. If they tried that with me and the cops I know there would be blood on the streets. Some of it may be mine but that's ok.It's real easy to allow this to happen and then blame other people for your cowardice and or laziness and I understand the concept of going "fetal" but at some point in time you have to put that aside, man up and do your job if even only for self respect. If I were one of those cops involved in this and my family had to watch me slink away like a little kid while some thug dumped water on me, I'd hide my head in shame and they would never see me again. I for one could not under any circumstance live with that.

You're 100% wrong here.

Mayor DeCommio has made it clear he does not like police and DOES NOT HAVE THEIR BACKS. These cops know their asses are grass if they react back in any way hence the reason they act so cowed.

I'm 100 percent wrong? I don't think so. To both you and Spunk, I am well aware of how things are in the NYPD. I work in a very similar situation. But you know what? I'm a man before I'm a cop and any cop who would that to happen to them isn't even fit to flip burgers at McDonalds. Fuck the CCRB or anything else. I'd take any suspension or termination with pleasure before I'd allow myself to be treated that way. Be a man, be a Policeman not a little pussy. And that's exactly what those coppers are. Pussies. And btw, in case you don't know, there is a growing amount of support WITHIN the ranks of the NYPD for some sort of discipline being handed to these guys.

When I was first starting, I was told by old hands in no uncertain terms, I could never back down if I was resisted, assaulted or interfered with. And I was not to allow this to happen any other officer under any circumstances. If I failed in this, I would have suffered the ultimate punishment of the street cop: Loss of faith and trust of my fellow cops.
And this "code" (if you want to use that term) got my ass thumped a couple of times. Thats the job.
As for the cops in this situation, had it been me: Call for officer needs assistance and then go after the bucket wielder. Big time. And when all the bureaucrats, ass kissers and second guessers arrive on scene, if I could still stand, I would proudly say I went after the scumbags. And let the chips fall where they may. Prosecuted? Suspended? Disciplined? I would quit. I would never want to work for any agency who would allow me to be assaulted in any way and then tell me I am wrong for reacting to it.
To those cops working under current conditions in liberal cities, you have my deepest respect.
It is now 71 degrees in MQT. Come up, cool off and I will buy you a beer.

'NYPD brass on Tuesday blasted the scoundrels caught on viral videos dousing cops with water during the weekend heatwave, promising that the culprits will be arrested.

But in the same breath NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan drubbed the cops who took the abuse.

“Any cop who thinks that that’s all right, that they can walk away from something like that, maybe they should reconsider whether or not this is the profession for them,” Monahan said Tuesday during an NYPD Longevity Celebration at police headquarters in Lower Manhattan, where cops who served 30 years or more were honored. “We don’t take that.”

Monahan, the highest-ranking uniformed police officer in the NYPD, said cops are searching for the water-throwing hooligans caught dousing cops in Harlem and Brownsville in separate videos.

In the Harlem incident Saturday, cops were arresting a suspect for disorderly conduct when “a couple of guys thought it was all right to throw water and a bucket at the cops,” Monahan said.

“But that ain’t all right,” the Bronx native added. “Arrests will be made because that is not acceptable for our men and women who are keeping people safe.” '


https://www.nydailynews.com/ne...3vrokm6ya-story.html

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I'm a man before I'm a cop and any cop who would that to happen to them isn't even fit to flip burgers at McDonalds. Fuck the CCRB or anything else. I'd take any suspension or termination with pleasure before I'd allow myself to be treated that way. Be a man, be a Policeman not a little pussy. And that's exactly what those coppers are. Pussies.

Absolutely correct.

Love to see the whole police force go on strike. Police yourselves ANIMALS!

If I was a NYC police, I would put on my blinders and the hell with the parasite animals of NYC. I would do as little as possible and let the thugs kill one another! I would be on my way to the coffee and donut shop!

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“But that ain’t all right,” the Bronx native added. “Arrests will be made because that is not acceptable for our men and women who are keeping people safe.” '

Do the cops really "keep people safe”?
I've always been of the impression that they show up after a crime has been committed.
I suppose you are safer at a venue with a heavy police presence, but that's only in a limited space for a finite event.
For the most part, I don't see the police as "keeping people safe.”

On Dan Bongino's FB page, he shows a NSFW video of cops being harassed by "citizens" of NYC.

Unbelievable.


https://www.facebook.com/10104...050143287732?sfns=mo

That's a strange event. I'm not really sure what to make of this but there must be more to it that we're not aware of. This is NYC, not some tumbleweed town in the middle of nowhere. If those officers called for assistance, there'd be 100 cops there in minutes....literally.

They're arresting someone in the video so the idea that they're in an area that's "hands off" is out.

I can't imagine why they'd let themselves be assaulted and humiliated like that but I very much doubt it was to protect their jobs. I'm not sure where the video came from but this is so over the top that it looks like their making a statement of some kind.

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Originally posted by oddball:
On Dan Bongino's FB page, he shows a NSFW video of cops being harassed by "citizens" of NYC.

Unbelievable.


https://www.facebook.com/10104...050143287732?sfns=mo

Wow.....feel bad for cops that have made into pussies by all this PC bullshit.

That POS would not have done that to an NYPD officer 40 years ago.....well he might have but pretty sure he would have been picking his teeth of the floor.

When I was sworn in as a police officer in 1976, I'm quite sure that I didn't give up my right not to be subjected to either assaults or battery. A lot has changed since then, but taking any kind of physical abuse and allowing the offender(s) to walk away??? Nope. I don't care what the mayor, city council, the United States Congress, or the President of the United States of America would say about it. Those SOBs would have certainly gone to jail, and if they had to be medically cleared at the hospital first (because they elected to resist arrest), that would be fine.