I'm cool with it, we have watched a few new releases at home for $20

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I'm torn. I'm pretty anti-movie-theater for various reasons, but even still, I go about once a year for certain specific films.

I have a nice home theater system, but there's still no substitute for the full "big screen" experience on some films. (Especially when you get up into IMAX.)

1917 is a good example of a recent film that's not quite the same at home, even with a good home theater.

Yep.
People like yourself are invested in nice home theater systems and obviously that means less likely to go the the theater.
Add in the corona... and the theater is a thing of the past. A few may survive, but certainly not as many. The ones that do survive will probably have to be subsidized (or at least pay lower rates) by the movie making industry just because they want people to have the theater option. Their current business model simply doesn't work anymore.

I enjoy going to the movies. I like movie theater stale popcorn and soda, the smell, and the atmosphere. I don't think I've been to see a movie since January.

When the kids were at home, the movies were a regular thing, and my wife and I did a movie once a week for date night. She never liked the theater as much, and doesn't miss it.

Many moons past, I cleaned theaters at night, and got to see all the new releases in advance. I found everything one can imagine from rolls of cash to drugs to...used condoms...in movie theaters. Plus a lot of shit one can't really imagine, but gets left in theaters anyway.

I don't know why, but I've always liked movie theaters, and though it's seldom I get to one these days, especially live theaters.

Who knows when that normalcy shall return.

As stated above, why go to the theater when I have 4k, surround sound, and a big ass sub woofer? I got 99% of the good experience in my living room, with 0% of the bad experience. No lines, cheap snacks or home cooked steaks, a pause button, and no annoying kids.

Movie theaters may not have died from COVID, but the comorbidities combined with COVID is going to result in a high fatality rate.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
... The ones that do survive will probably have to be subsidized (or at least pay lower rates) by the movie making industry just because they want people to have the theater option. Their current business model simply doesn't work anymore.

And maybe the movie stars will have to stop getting $20 million to make a movie, while movie budgets will get tightened and more business-like.

I wonder how the stars will react to true market pressures.



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My wife and I haven't been to a movie theater in over twenty years, and have no interest at all in ever going to one again. The downsides way outnumber the upsides in our minds.

I see about two or three movies in a theater a year. I am willing to wait for most all of them to hit streaming services.

But it is a decent sized industry, so . . .

The whole movie experience with popcorn and drinks and confections with our kids created special memories. Probably goes back to memories of my youth and 25 cent cowboy matinees. Now I have my own popcorn machine and drinks and a really big, big screen TV and unlimited choices of movies at home. Now I could care less about the cattle drive at the theater. But there are some movies that should still be seen on the big screen.

The drive-in in the backseat of my 63 Ford with whatshername on the other hand created a whole different set of memories.

its OK if the theaters go under, its OK with me if ALL of Hollywood goes under

perhaps if they had made a quality product things might have worked out differently, but they've been feeding us shit for 20 years

they had a good ride

Adios

The volume is always too high and the idiots talking and not paying attention ruin it.

Good riddance

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Originally posted by mark_a:
The volume is always too high

Seriously though... most films are intended to be experienced with booming, immersive surround audio. It's one of the perks of the movie theater experience. A good home theater system can come close or match it, but most folks don't have access to that.

Trying to fully enjoy a film on someone's TV with tiny, tinny built-in speakers or a cheap Chinese stereo soundbar is beyond annoying. I don't care how big your screen is or how good the video quality is, you're still missing out on a big chunk of the film.

(And it often leads to ignorant complaints from folks about how "the audio on that film sucked", "that audio mixer should be fired because I couldn't understand the dialogue", etc... It's not the film, it's your setup. )

I'm afraid that, if the movie market moves to streaming only, then audio quality is going to suffer greatly. They're going to start mixing films to cater primarily to basic built-in stereo speakers, because that's all the majority of their streaming viewers will have since they're watching on their basic TV/laptop/tablet/etc.

Our oldest son works as the head of the IT dept for a movie theater management company. They run about 100 theaters.

He has been furloughed since March and I don't see anyway his industry is coming back. He says Hollywood will not release any movies as long as NY and California are closed.

If anyone knows of a company looking for a great IT guy please let me know !!

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
I'm torn. I'm pretty anti-movie-theater for various reasons, but even still, I go about once a year for certain specific films.

I have a nice home theater system, but there's still no substitute for the full "big screen" experience on some epic films. (Especially when you get up into IMAX.)

1917 is a good example of a recent film that's not quite the same at home, even with a good home theater.

this,

I went maybe 3-4 times a year on avg,

every Bond film,
every Star Trek
every Star Wars
(even if they suck)



and plus on for 1917, and even Dunkirk, on the big screen

Going forward, the only venues with a future are places like Alamo Draft House.

Put me in the going to miss them camp. Many of my favorite memories from childhood were centered around going to movies.
Concessions have always been high priced but going out is sometimes a splurge right? Like another member mentioned, the popcorn smell unique to theaters is an anchor I'll probably never lose...unless I can never smell it again.

No, I don't want to see most films in the theater anymore, but once in a while there's no good substitute.

Even if I felt like most of the current posters here, I would resent losing another choice due to the all encompassing fuckery that is 2020.

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Originally posted by Micropterus:

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Originally posted by XinTX:
Can't remember the last time I went to see a movie in the theater. Most movies coming out now are utter garbage. All the SJW messaging in them makes new movies not worth the time...

Couldn't agree more. It'd be nice if some movies were produced that told a compelling story without some social commentary, filled with actors and actresses that aren't loud-mouthed, reality-detached shills for progressive causes. And some movies that have nothing to do with Marvel characters, or Star Wars.

If you think they've been bad up until now, you ain't seen nothing yet!

These new guidelines to be eligible for Oscar nomination will be going into effect soon:

ACADEMY ESTABLISHES REPRESENTATION AND INCLUSION STANDARDS FOR OSCARS® ELIGIBILITY

Today, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced new representation and inclusion standards for Oscars® eligibility in the Best Picture category, as part of its Academy Aperture 2025 initiative. The standards are designed to encourage equitable representation on and off screen in order to better reflect the diversity of the movie-going audience. Academy governors DeVon Franklin and Jim Gianopulos headed a task force to develop the standards that were created from a template inspired by the British Film Institute (BFI) Diversity Standards used for certain funding eligibility in the UK and eligibility in some categories of the British Academy of Film and Television (BAFTA) Awards, but were adapted to serve the specific needs of the Academy. The Academy also consulted with the Producers Guild of America (PGA), as it presently does for Oscars eligibility.

“The aperture must widen to reflect our diverse global population in both the creation of motion pictures and in the audiences who connect with them. The Academy is committed to playing a vital role in helping make this a reality,” said Academy President David Rubin and Academy CEO Dawn Hudson. “We believe these inclusion standards will be a catalyst for long-lasting, essential change in our industry.”

For the 94th Oscars (2022) and 95th Oscars (2023), submitting a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form will be required for Best Picture consideration, however meeting inclusion thresholds will not be required for eligibility in the Best Picture category until the 96th Oscars (2024).

For the 96th Oscars (2024), a film must meet TWO out of FOUR of the following standards to be deemed eligible:

STANDARD A: ON-SCREEN REPRESENTATION, THEMES AND NARRATIVES
To achieve Standard A, the film must meet ONE of the following criteria:

A1. Lead or significant supporting actors

At least one of the lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group.
• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African American
• Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

A2. General ensemble cast

At least 30% of all actors in secondary and more minor roles are from at least two of the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

A3. Main storyline/subject matter

The main storyline(s), theme or narrative of the film is centered on an underrepresented group(s).
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD B: CREATIVE LEADERSHIP AND PROJECT TEAM
To achieve Standard B, the film must meet ONE of the criteria below:

B1. Creative leadership and department heads

At least two of the following creative leadership positions and department heads—Casting Director, Cinematographer, Composer, Costume Designer, Director, Editor, Hairstylist, Makeup Artist, Producer, Production Designer, Set Decorator, Sound, VFX Supervisor, Writer—are from the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

At least one of those positions must belong to the following underrepresented racial or ethnic group:
• Asian
• Hispanic/Latinx
• Black/African American
• Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
• Middle Eastern/North African
• Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
• Other underrepresented race or ethnicity

B2. Other key roles

At least six other crew/team and technical positions (excluding Production Assistants) are from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group. These positions include but are not limited to First AD, Gaffer, Script Supervisor, etc.

B3. Overall crew composition
At least 30% of the film’s crew is from the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD C: INDUSTRY ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITIES
To achieve Standard C, the film must meet BOTH criteria below:

C1. Paid apprenticeship and internship opportunities

The film’s distribution or financing company has paid apprenticeships or internships that are from the following underrepresented groups and satisfy the criteria below:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

The major studios/distributors are required to have substantive, ongoing paid apprenticeships/internships inclusive of underrepresented groups (must also include racial or ethnic groups) in most of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

The mini-major or independent studios/distributors must have a minimum of two apprentices/interns from the above underrepresented groups (at least one from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group) in at least one of the following departments: production/development, physical production, post-production, music, VFX, acquisitions, business affairs, distribution, marketing and publicity.

C2. Training opportunities and skills development (crew)

The film’s production, distribution and/or financing company offers training and/or work opportunities for below-the-line skill development to people from the following underrepresented groups:
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing


STANDARD D: AUDIENCE DEVELOPMENT
To achieve Standard D, the film must meet the criterion below:

D1. Representation in marketing, publicity, and distribution


The studio and/or film company has multiple in-house senior executives from among the following underrepresented groups (must include individuals from underrepresented racial or ethnic groups) on their marketing, publicity, and/or distribution teams.
• Women
• Racial or ethnic group

Asian
Hispanic/Latinx
Black/African American
Indigenous/Native American/Alaskan Native
Middle Eastern/North African
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander
​Other underrepresented race or ethnicity
• LGBTQ+
• People with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing

All categories other than Best Picture will be held to their current eligibility requirements. Films in the specialty feature categories (Animated Feature Film, Documentary Feature, International Feature Film) submitted for Best Picture/General Entry consideration will be addressed separately.

Academy Aperture 2025 is the next phase of the Academy’s equity and inclusion initiative furthering the organization’s ongoing efforts to advance inclusion in the entertainment industry and increase representation within its membership and the greater film community.

Saw 1917 in the theater. Also saw a simul-cast presentation of Turnadot by Paganini. That was impressive and definitely worthwhile.

It would be neat if the drive in theaters returned, but I think most have been torn down and sold off.

At home most movies on the TV are about all I need. The nicest feature is the pause button so I /we can take a break.

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Originally posted by Chris42:
It would be neat if the drive in theaters returned, but I think most have been torn down and sold off.

And many of the ones that remain are old and dilapidated.

One opened this weekend near me, I plan on checking it out.

started reading through the new Oscar criteria

I note that they didn't include a section on brain-dead writers and producers with not a single original thought between them

why would I pay to see a remake, when I can watch the original for free - and its usually a higher quality experience