Wickenburg has tried to make it easy for in-town traffic. A continuous 5 lane road for the town's two main streets, with a dedicated left turn lane the whole way. Roundabouts. Stop signs only off the main streets, or entering the main streets, are generally honored but not by all. The few lights are triggered only when someone is waiting on the side street, otherwise remain green for through traffic. The worst (especially when our "winter visitors" are here) are putting on your blinker in the left traffic lane for a left turn, then waiting in that traffic lane to turn, rather than using the left turn lane. And the "polite" folks who stop in the middle of a roundabout to let traffic enter. I've almost rear ended a couple of those when they stop suddenly and unexpectedly in the circle, but so far I've been aware enough to avoid the crash.
 

Jumping out the split second the light turns green without checking for cross traffic can increase your odds of getting clipped.

Consider that most of the population ignores laws PERIOD. It’s really not surprising how many people roll through stop signs. To them, the Consitution is outdated, a policeman shooting and killing a thug either going to or coming from some misdeed is wrong and you’ll read threads here about such. Stop signs? Just a minor part of the lawlessness that’s common place in this country.

This thread is hilarious. Anarchy!!

I've been saying for years you could fix a lot by swapping all stop signs with yeild signs and vice versa.

Red light runners & people blowing through stop signs is an epidemic here. Not to mention half the city thinks they are Ricky Bobby going for the checkered flag.
To say you have to drive defensively is an understatement.

The only time a stop sign should ever be used is if the road dead ends at the edge of the Grand Canyon. All other instances should be replaced by a yield sign. Stop signs make zero sense in almost any location.

Maybe some egocentric megalomaniac kabazillionare could garner a buncha government money and make a self driving car that obeys all traffic laws and takes you to and from all destinations so we could take the problem out of the equation, people..

Small town about 2 sq miles with about 25 miles of roadway. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 220 stop signs. That means about 600 ft between stop signs. Absolutely absurd.

No one take them seriously because there are so many.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
My town of Park City is in the process of systematically installing traffic circles everywhere. That's great; I'm a fan of traffic circles (or roundabouts if you prefer)... except no one knows how to freakin' drive them!

No, lady. You're not supposed to slam on the brakes when you're already in the middle of the roundabout. And no, you jackass, you don't have the right of way as you approach a circle. You yield to those already in it. And use your turn signal!

And yes. Stop signs in my neighborhood seem to be a mere suggestion to most people.

We got our first roundabout last year and it’s a nightmare because the concept is mind boggling to nearly everyone.

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traffic circles (or roundabouts if you prefer).

I actually prefer the New England term of "Rotary"

I never, ever enter an intersection equipped with a signal without making sure the crossing traffic is going to stop for the red light.
Which pisses off everyone behind me who want to live dangerously.
And I will slow roll a stop sign if it is afe to do so. I think many stop signed intersections could be better served with yield signs.

I don't know if there is a term for it, but I see this phenomenon ALL THE DAMN TIME around here:

Person A pulls up to stop sign and stops as per usual. Person B rolls up on Person A's ass, stopping 0.5 inches from their rear bumper. When Person A proceeds, Person B ALSO PROCEEDS as if that stop from Person A counted for them!

WTF is that crap!

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Originally posted by PASig:
I don't know if there is a term for it, but I see this phenomenon ALL THE DAMN TIME around here:

Person A pulls up to stop sign and stops as per usual. Person B rolls up on Person A's ass, stopping 0.5 inches from their rear bumper. When Person A proceeds, Person B ALSO PROCEEDS as if that stop from Person A counted for them!

WTF is that crap!

Drafting!

They only ignored by cyclists around these parts.

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Originally posted by Veeper:
They only ignored by cyclists around these parts.

You mean those guys that demand they be treated like vehicles until it comes to following the laws that pertain to vehicles?

Back when I was on the HP and even now....I know the Troopers still work stop signs and red light violations. Issued a lot of warnings as well as convincing drivers WHY one must stop, the dangerous consequences of a T Bone crash, etc.

I think that here in Montana folks do pretty well with stop signs and red lights. Our newly installed "round abouts", not so much.

Stop signs and turn signals are for squares! Everybody knows they are not required for cool people! They also demonstrate coolness by just giving the shopping cart a shove in a direction perpendicular to their vehicle after loading the back seat!

Stopping at stop signs, obeying the speed limit and using turn signals are just signs of weakness.

Ask anyone of the 'special' people that live in North Scottsdale. Be the Alpha!

Different spin on an answer to the OP's question.

Here in St. Louis they did a study a few years ago and found St. Louis (I'm including the City, StL County, etc. as one entity) has a whopping 2 TIMES the number of stop signs/lights versus any similarly sized city in the US.

Hence people ignore them here all the time. In fact there are a few in the parking lot at our office as our office building is on the outskirts of a dying Mall. In other words there is stop sign despite the fact the cross street is a "dead street".

Why does StL have so many? Every local politician can petition for one. To get re-elected they will do so and with StL city and about 100 other cities/townships/villages in StL County, the EXPLOSION of stop signs/lights came to be.