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Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
I’m Jewish. I’ve never understood most Jew’s unconditional support for the Democrats. It’s counterintuitive.

Indeed. Democrats are the modern worshippers of the golden calf; give 'em the Levite education lesson.

Not this Jew. I go to the range weekly now. Fuck around & find out.

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Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
I’m Jewish. I’ve never understood most Jew’s unconditional support for the Democrats. It’s counterintuitive.

Rush Limbaugh (who I miss big time) put it simply: Liberalism trumps everything.

No sympathy for any Jew in this country that votes for the regressives.

None. They deserve the misery and misfortune they get by voting stupid. That’s the price.

As that Kenyan bastard said - elections have consequences.

That works both ways.

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Originally posted by M'headSig:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
It's my impression many Jews in the U.S. do not identify with their brethren in Israel.

I think the media favors that impression, but anecdotally, speaking to my 30-something daughter and her husband, and hearing from their peers, many young Jews are deeply concerned aboutIsrael's well-being, and by extension, the rise of anti-semitism here in the U.S.

As a Jew, I've always been acutely aware that U.S. anti-semitism bubbles fervently just below the surface for many of my fellow Americans, and it only takes something like what is going on in the Mideast for it to boil over into something like the hate crime attack that recently took place in L.A.

As a Jew, I'm also acutely aware that even though I was born in America, I, like other American citizen Jews are truly only guests here and everywhere else in the world except for Israel.

I abhor the historical illiteracy and ignorance of any Jew whose heart bleeds for the Palestinians over Israelis. And I would remind them of the words of Goldie Meir: "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us."

You're an American, all though living in the mess that is Maskachusetts I understand your guest comment. You're an American, and I will stand by my brothers and sisters, God Bless the U.S.A.!!!

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Black Lives Matter Goes Global, Claims Solidarity With Palestinian Terrorists

Do these stupid motherfuckers realize who were at the center of international slave trading?

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Originally posted by BigSwede:

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It's my impression many Jews in the U.S. do not identify with their brethren in Israel.

I feel the same, they vote heavily dem. It makes no sense to me

Same here.

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Originally posted by M'headSig:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
It's my impression many Jews in the U.S. do not identify with their brethren in Israel.

I think the media favors that impression, but anecdotally, speaking to my 30-something daughter and her husband, and hearing from their peers, many young Jews are deeply concerned about Israel's well-being, and by extension, the rise of anti-semitism here in the U.S.

As a Jew, I've always been acutely aware that U.S. anti-semitism bubbles fervently just below the surface for many of my fellow Americans, and it only takes something like what is going on in the Mideast for it to boil over into something like the hate crime attack that recently took place in L.A.

As a Jew, I'm also acutely aware that even though I was born in America, I, like other American citizen Jews are truly only guests here and everywhere else in the world except for Israel.

I abhor the historical illiteracy and ignorance of any Jew whose heart bleeds for the Palestinians over Israelis. And I would remind them of the words of Goldie Meir: "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us."

"As a Jew, I'm also acutely aware that even though I was born in America, I, like other American citizen Jews are truly only guests here and everywhere else in the world except for Israel."

I am not sure I understand your statement. I seem to have trouble with the idea that American citizens of any religion, or belief system, are only "guests" here.

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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
... Democrats are the modern worshippers of the golden calf; give 'em the Levite education lesson.

LET'S GOOOOOOOO!

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
... I am not sure I understand your statement. I seem to have trouble with the idea that American citizens of any religion, or belief system, are only "guests" here.

Many religious people consider themselves sojourners. Our earthly lives are ephemeral. Our lives in the Kingdom of God are eternal. There's no anti-American statement in that.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
Rush Limbaugh (who I miss big time) put it simply: Liberalism trumps everything.

This cannot be overstated. Everything means everything. Friends, family, truth, justice, reason, God, etc. Everything.

It is worth remembering that it is easier to defeat a house divided. Liberal media has been doing this for years when it comes to the relationship between Jews and Christians.

It is historically factual that there has been division and mistrust from both groups but on this point I have come to a conclusion based solely on my own experiences and observations.

Strife between the two groups has often been exaggerated for political reasons. I was raised Lutheran and have been essentially evangelical since adulthood. In my 52 years on this planet I have never tended a church service, prayer meeting, church social, or bible study where the Jewish people as a whole were vilified in any way. While it is true that it is taught that the Jewish leadership in Jerusalem did in fact persecute Jesus and pressure the Romans to crucify Him, this was a political act that in no way leads to Christians blaming Jews. The term Christian started as a pejorative. Jesus and his followers were Jews.

While I am aware that there have been so called Christians who have spoken against Jews, and so called Jews who have spoken against Christians, I have never personally witnessed this. I have only "heard" about it from the Media, or references to older writing or teachings from the past. In my opinion both groups have their Erev Rav, and regardless how much the media and politicians wish to imply that these opinions are the norm, they simply aren't.


As painful as it may be to Christian and Jewish Erev Rav to hear, I have never considered my Christianity to be anything more than an offshoot so to speak of Judaism that has more commonalities than differences. Easter cannot be understood without Passover.

I am old, fat, and not of much use, but should the proverbial balloon go up, I will happily die in what I hope to be a large pile of brass to defend my Jewish brethren.

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Originally posted by thunderson:


As painful as it may be to Christian and Jewish Erev Rav to hear, I have never considered my Christianity to be anything more than an offshoot so to speak of Judaism that has more commonalities than differences. Easter cannot be understood without Passover.

That right there. I went through 12 years of a huge Philly Catholic School and we always celebrated the Seder and other Jewish traditions along with the Christian ones. Jesus was Jewish after all.

I guess it’s where/how I grew up, but I never saw or felt any hatred toward Jewish people. I dated Jewish girls, worked for Jewish people, had Jews as neighbors etc...it’s just like having an Irish or Italian family as far as I’m concerned.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
It's my impression many Jews in the U.S. do not identify with their brethren in Israel.

THIS. All of my Jewish friends are Democrats, even though the democrats routinely piss on Israel.

Plain and simple, the Jewish are my Brethren! As a Christian I shall love all that believe.

In my Synagogue in Northern Virginia, which has widely different politics and levels of religious observance, we take security seriously and have PLENTY of members who own, shoot, and sometimes carry. My best friend in my Synagogue shoots regularly with me. And we lament how liberal our wives are.

I think the anecdotal posting and involvement of so many Jewish SigForum members on this thread shows that the politics of American Jews is changing. But it is a slow, slow process going from near 100% pro-Dems to maybe more like 80%. Its also cultural.

I know some super-liberal Jews who support PLO and 2-state solutions, and hate the IDF and Israeli militarism. But not many. Even my liberal American Jewish friends keenly watch politics and violence in Israel and, even if they keep it very quiet, support Israel's right to defend itself, and sometime doing so proactively.

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Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:

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Black Lives Matter Goes Global, Claims Solidarity With Palestinian Terrorists

Do these stupid motherfuckers realize who were at the center of international slave trading?

You can tell by their actions they've never cracked a history book.

I just saw an ad on MTV supporting Jewish Americans.
I patiently await the cancel culture demanding MTV be brought down.

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Originally posted by corsair:
Historically, the last 150-years, Jews have sided with Socialist causes, citing the discrimination faced in Russia during the Czars and the social accepted anti-semitism Europe in the 19th century. The Russian Revolution fueled all sorts of fantasy and hope, stimulating all manor of Communist wishful thinking for many throughout the first half of the 20th century.

A part of history that gets little mention. Jews pretty much wholly embraced the Soviet Union after prior experience with the Czars and nationalists in surrounding countries. If you look at the German interwar revolution, many of the leaders were Jewish, trying to spread communism. Most of the Jewish resistance groups during the war were communist or leftist.

Dennis Prager has covered this in a video (I think), but I KNOW he's been asked this question on his show. For the life of me, I can't find a YT video where he discusses this topic. I think the answer lies in that they're (and someone else typed it on a previous response) JINOs.....Jews In Name Only.

Disgusting. Mom is snoozed again on Facebook. Posts a beach pic with her boyfriend, someone with Palestinian flag profile pic posts she looks good in picture. Mom responds that she feels bad being happy while her brothers and sisters are being bombed. First they were discussing a day at the beach, why would she reply in that way. Second if she was going to reply that way, maybe she should have said can you stop launching 4,000 rockets at us so that our brothers and sisters can enjoy a nice day at the beach without being in fear.

The vigor with which the Jews as a people vote for those who seek their annihilation does seem illogical and perplexing. I asked Jewish Christian friends about this and also a Jewish bible teacher (Arnold Fruchtenbaum, Th.M., Ph.D.). The answer for this seaming desire to destroy themselves is that the Jewish leadership had led the Jewish people, as a whole, to reject Jesus' claim of Messiahship in accordance with Isiah 49; 1-3. This elicited a severe rebuke in which Jesus pronounced judgement on that generation of Jews. This judgment entailed three consequences for the Jewish nation: 1) a partial and temporary hardening, 2) a complete dispersion of the Jews throughout the Gentile nations, and 3) tribulations at the hand of the Gentiles.

The partial and temporary hardening: This is why so many Jews reject Jesus claim of Messiahship. The LORD sends them a strong delusion so they will believe a lie (that Jesus is not Messiah). The just can't help themselves; because, they cannot see the truth. Nevertheless, some Jews do indeed embrace the Gospel (e.g. Peter, Mathew, Paul, Dr. Fruchtenbaum) and are added to the remnant of Israel ( the small number of believing Jews). None of the Messianic Jews I know is Fascist, because each sees the truth. The vast majority of Jews live in disobedience to God as has always been the case, but the LORD always preserves a small remnant. This hardening is only temporary, as all the Jews who will survive the Great Tribulation (called the Great and Terrible Day of the LORD in Scripture) will be believers, and all Jews alive during the Messianic kingdom will be believers and enjoy all of the fabulous promises God has given them.

The dispersion of the Jews: When the Romans put down the second Jewish revolt, they destroyed Jerusalem and scattered the Jews all over the earth. Though there are now Jews in every nation, as a whole they consider themselves to belong to the Jewish nation rather than the nation in which they now sojourn. So, the observation that many Jews who live in America bear allegiance to the Jewish nation is indeed correct. It is not wrong for the Jews to be this way, for God bred them out of the Gentile nations, and He has called them to be separate from the Gentiles.

Tribulations at the hand of the Gentiles: Because the Jewish leadership of the day rejected Messiah (fulfilling Isiah 49; 1-3)), the Jews suffer tribulations inflicted upon them by Gentiles. No other people has suffered as the Jews; but, this does not mean the Gentiles are duty-bound to persecute them. It would be well to remember that Jesus taught "though tribulations must come, woe to the man by whom they come.". With the Patriarchal Covenant, God did promise Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that He would bless those who bless them and their descendants (the Jews), and He would curse those who curse them and their descendants, and in them shall all the families of the earth be blessed. This covenant is still in force and the scriptures are full of examples of God's blessing those who bless the Jews and cursing those who curse them.

Had the Jewish people realized that Jesus is indeed the Redeemer of Israel and their King, He would have established His Kingdom on earth; but fortunately for us Gentiles, God's plan was for them to reject Him temporarily so the Gospel could go out to the Gentiles. To those gentiles who believe, God gives the right to be called sons of God and also of Abraham so that they will inherit the Kingdom and enjoy the blessings with the Jews. When the full number of Gentiles who will embrace the Gospel have done so, then God will resume His plan to save the remaining Jews from from their sins.

So though it seems that the Jews long for the destruction of their people, a small remnant of believing Jews will always exist.