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What alternatives to Whole Wheat flour are healthier ?

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May 31, 2025, 05:49 PM
wrightd
What alternatives to Whole Wheat flour are healthier ?
What alternatives to Whole Wheat flour are healthier ?

This would be for making baked goods and healthier baked desserts.




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May 31, 2025, 06:08 PM
tatortodd
I have an open bag almond flour in the pantry so I've used it before, but cannot remember the context. The pasta I buy is made from red lentil flour, and I just ate some crackers made with rice flour.

Here is an article that provides 11 flour options and context for when/how to use each.



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May 31, 2025, 06:16 PM
Gustofer
Can't help you on alternatives, but is there any particular reason you don't want whole wheat?


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May 31, 2025, 06:24 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Can't help you on alternatives, but is there any particular reason you don't want whole wheat?

Because it has two chemicals that are bad for many people, among others. If you read a few internet articles is will become clear. And the reasons have nothing to do with nutrition.




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May 31, 2025, 06:38 PM
sigmonkey
Are these in any whole wheat flour? (part of the make up of any WWF)
Or are they processed additives?

Reason I ask, is the former Mrs. Monkey used to grind whole wheat (organic and pesticide free) into flour and make our own bread.

That may be an option, or it may be of no help.




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May 31, 2025, 06:56 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Are these in any whole wheat flour? (part of the make up of any WWF)
Or are they processed additives?

Reason I ask, is the former Mrs. Monkey used to grind whole wheat (organic and pesticide free) into flour and make our own bread.

That may be an option, or it may be of no help.

I think they are, and they occur naturally. But overall Whole Wheat homemade ground bread is delicious and healthy in terms of nutrition compared to cheap white bread, I've had it and it's certainly delicious, but for my situation not advised for reasons unrelated to nutrition.




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May 31, 2025, 07:04 PM
dsiets
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Are these in any whole wheat flour? (part of the make up of any WWF)
Or are they processed additives?

Reason I ask, is the former Mrs. Monkey used to grind whole wheat (organic and pesticide free) into flour and make our own bread.

That may be an option, or it may be of no help.

I think they are, and they occur naturally. But overall Whole Wheat homemade ground bread is delicious and healthy in terms of nutrition compared to cheap white bread, I've had it and it's certainly delicious, but for my situation not advised for reasons unrelated to nutrition.

Is it a secret? Can you tell us what you are trying to avoid so I don't make a response only to find out I guessed wrong? Is this a FODMAP diet? ?
May 31, 2025, 07:41 PM
229DAK
You could try Einkorn whole wheat flour or something like an organic 9-grain flour. I use both when making bread.


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May 31, 2025, 07:41 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by dsiets:
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Are these in any whole wheat flour? (part of the make up of any WWF)
Or are they processed additives?

Reason I ask, is the former Mrs. Monkey used to grind whole wheat (organic and pesticide free) into flour and make our own bread.

That may be an option, or it may be of no help.

I think they are, and they occur naturally. But overall Whole Wheat homemade ground bread is delicious and healthy in terms of nutrition compared to cheap white bread, I've had it and it's certainly delicious, but for my situation not advised for reasons unrelated to nutrition.

Is it a secret? Can you tell us what you are trying to avoid so I don't make a response only to find out I guessed wrong? Is this a FODMAP diet? ?

Gluten (for some), another chemical that retards absorbtion of nutrition in the gut (occurs natrually), and roundup (glyphosate) used as a dessicant as part of the harvest job. And some other reasons I don't recall.




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May 31, 2025, 07:44 PM
wrightd
Maybe no worse than eating fruits and vegetables from farms outside of the USA with heavy metal contamination, human raw seweage used for fertilizer, traces of industrial waste and bad chemicals, etc.

And esp. canned oysters grows on "oyster farms" in china. As an example.




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May 31, 2025, 08:44 PM
dsiets
My nephew was having problems and I tried to help him w/ a 100% Spelt whole grain (organic) sour dough starter.

The combination of spelt and the sourdough fermentation makes a big difference in digestibility.

You can find other recipes using sourdough starter from cookies and pancakes and so on. The organic whole spelt flour we used was from Harvest Health Foods here in Michigan.
June 01, 2025, 08:41 AM
Fly-Sig
quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:

Gluten (for some), another chemical that retards absorbtion of nutrition in the gut (occurs natrually), and roundup (glyphosate) used as a dessicant as part of the harvest job. And some other reasons I don't recall.


Both of those are excellent reasons to avoid US wheat. I'm celiac and we (meaning the wife) bake regularly with non-wheat flours.

King Arthur and Bob's Red Mill are brands which make excellent alternatives. Their pre-mixed products really do work well. e.g. pancake mix, cake mix, generic baking flour. You can try to make your own recipes, but the raw ingredients are expensive, and it is difficult to do as well as the products from those companies.

Getting away from glyphosate can be tricky. Organic should cover it, but apparently it doesn't always. I just heard yesterday that California wines have glyphosate, even the organic wines.

You need to read labels for everything. Especially look for certified gluten free and organic. There are apps for scanning bar codes in the grocery store to tell you if the product is celiac safe or not.

If you are trying to be as strict as possible, restaurants are going to be challenging. There's tons of contamination. French fries, hamburger patties, blue cheese, scrambled eggs, etc.
June 01, 2025, 09:29 AM
sjtill
Scrambled egg mixes used by restaurants contain flour—my wife alerted me to that.

But then I’m one of those who grinds his own wheat berries. Real hard to be on a low-carb diet when the bread you make yourself is so delicious—and aids with digestion (my wife has stopped using Miralax for her diverticulosis as she has eaten more of “Grandpa’s” bread.


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June 01, 2025, 11:50 AM
229DAK
quote:
Getting away from glyphosate can be tricky.
It's in oats and oat products, too. Buy organic if you possibly can and stay away from all the products with 'quick' or 'instant' oats.


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June 01, 2025, 06:59 PM
mark60
Gluten is in all wheat products as I understand. I buy organic whole oat groats and organic wheat berries that are certified glyphosate free.
June 01, 2025, 07:50 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by mark60:
I buy ... organic wheat berries that are certified glyphosate free.

As do I. It really is remarkable, though, that we need to go to those lengths. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to spray wheat with Roundup prior to harvesting needs to be beaten about the head and neck with a sack of doorknobs. I really hope that Secretary Rollins (and RFK) go after these people and stop this process in farming.

OP could try using some organic soft wheat (less gluten) vs the higher gluten hard wheats and see if that helps.


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June 01, 2025, 09:21 PM
Silent
Almond flour bread

5 eggs
5 tbs olive oil
1 3/4 cup almond flour
1 tbs maple syrup
1 tsp apple cider vinegar
1/2 tsp baking soda
1/4 tsp salt

Mix dry ingredients. Whisk wet ingredients together. Combine wet and dry until smooth batter.

Pour into a greased or sprayed 8 x 4 loaf pan. Bake at 350 for 30 to 35 minutes.

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June 04, 2025, 07:38 PM
wrightd
So.... How does it taste compared to the taste of a nice loaf of home made break baked by your grandmother, for lack of a better description.

Does it have a similar taste and body ? I read that almond flour is very good without any nutritional downsides.




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June 04, 2025, 09:43 PM
cparktd
I didn’t save it and I don’t remember the exact particulars but I saw a YouTube video by two doctors that claimed plain white bread was better… or less harmful… for you than whole wheat. The complete opposite of what I have heard all my life…

I don’t believe anything these so-called experts say anymore.



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June 05, 2025, 03:38 PM
thumperfbc
Palouse Brand, out of Washington, is free of glyphosate as they don't use it at all. They have several grain options as well as lentils and beans, I believe. You can buy wheat berries as well as flour. I ordered a 5lb sack of wheat berries off Amazon.

https://www.palousebrand.com/