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June 24, 2021, 06:00 AM
vthoky
Can you help identify this electrical connector?
Good morning, SF. It looks like today brings another chapter in the "What's this connector?" book.

The pics below show a wiring harness connector on a friend's ATV. I'm trying to identify the connector so as to learn how to remove the terminals. I'm very familiar with Molex, Amp, and some JAE terminals and housings, but this one baffles me. I can't find a way to release the terminals from the housing.

Thanks, all.














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June 24, 2021, 06:59 AM
HRK
Look above the connector, see that black tab?

It appears that needs to lift up to free the connector, a small flat eyeglass screwdriver can go in, lift and then pull the wire. You can probably go in from the wire side as well, push the wire a tad forward and lift the retaining clip. Should slide out.


June 24, 2021, 09:11 AM
220-9er
If you don't find the answer here, I'd search the brand of ATV and connector and see what pops up.
Include the brand, model and year of the ATV here too and maybe that'll help us find the info.
I couldn't tell from the photo but is that a part number on the top face of the connector? Maybe a magnifying glass would help you see if it's not clear.


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June 24, 2021, 10:00 AM
Sailor1911
Weatherpak I suspect.




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June 24, 2021, 10:31 AM
snidera
I work with car wire harnesses daily.
It's a yazaki connector, from the arrow above the 2, but I don't recognize the style.
Got a P/N anywhere on it?

HRK is generally correct, but don't go in from the back (wire) side.

Referencing the pic HRK quoted:
I don't see a secondary, but I'm used to white secondary locks. If that tab above the RH terminal won't lift up, it might not have a secondary & you can skip that step.

Push the wire in slightly.
Use a small screwdriver that fits easily between the top of the terminal and the plastic, can't be tight. Slide it along the terminal until you feel it stop, then lift/pry the tab up slightly & pull the wire out.
June 24, 2021, 10:55 AM
PASig
Proprietary design maybe?


June 24, 2021, 11:39 AM
hberttmank
I can't help vthoky put I feel his pain. After working on American, European and Asian cars and industrial machinery for over 40 yrs, I ran into connectors I could not figure out until I broke the fucking thing.



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June 24, 2021, 11:48 AM
smschulz
Found this a a site here in town.

https://findpigtails.com/conne...&product_title=E62A3
June 24, 2021, 03:30 PM
HRK
Someone here posted a link to a connector web page, you uploaded the image and they determined what it is, and showed you how to work on it, along with the PN for replacements.

Remember sending up a random link and bam it matched it right up...
June 24, 2021, 03:41 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
Someone here posted a link to a connector web page, you uploaded the image and they determined what it is, and showed you how to work on it, along with the PN for replacements.

Remember sending up a random link and bam it matched it right up...



^^^^ I uploaded the pic to the site~ it didn't find it first go then a guy got on the chat line and I uploaded it to him and a minute later he came up with the item and I posted that link above.
FWIW, these guys are local to me and I have used them before when I was out of answers on a connector for my wife's car and they came through big time.
Also the guy said something about a 20% discount but not sure how that works and I said I would pass it on.
Good Luck
June 24, 2021, 05:33 PM
Black92LX
Sorry for the slight thread drift.
I have been looking for a place to buy pigtails as I have a couple harnesses I’d like to make for my truck.
That link is showing nearly everything at $80 a pigtail??
Am I missing something?


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June 24, 2021, 05:46 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:

That link is showing nearly everything at $80 a pigtail??
Am I missing something?


Yeah, it does seem pricey.
In my case after scouring the Internet for hours, going to store after store and even the dealer (who btw recommended the site as they had no part) and coming up short plus the considering the enormous work to manufacture an alternative it was worth it for me.
But I do get it that in some cases it may not be feasible, I wonder how much it costs to stock every obsolete pigtail anyway?
But good point on the price.
June 24, 2021, 06:20 PM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:

That link is showing nearly everything at $80 a pigtail??
Am I missing something?


Yeah, it does seem pricey.
In my case after scouring the Internet for hours, going to store after store and even the dealer (who btw recommended the site as they had no part) and coming up short plus the considering the enormous work to manufacture an alternative it was worth it for me.
But I do get it that in some cases it may not be feasible, I wonder how much it costs to stock every obsolete pigtail anyway?
But good point on the price.


This site seems like complete nonsense to me. I just had a headlight conversion harness made for $110 using all the factory brand connectors.
There are a total of 12 connectors in all for both sides of the harnesses. All but 1 type of connector is listed in that site and all are $79.
Using that site as a supplier would put the harness at well over $800.


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June 24, 2021, 06:30 PM
ubelongoutside
My neighbor works for Yazaki. I'm sending him the picture now. I'll let you know what he says.




June 24, 2021, 06:47 PM
ubelongoutside
quote:
Originally posted by ubelongoutside:
My neighbor works for Yazaki. I'm sending him the picture now. I'll let you know what he says.


He didn't have an answer as to disassembly, but might have one laying around.

What's your end goal? Disassembly to reattach to the wires? Would a replacement solve the disassembly issue?




June 24, 2021, 07:05 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
I couldn't tell from the photo but is that a part number on the top face of the connector? Maybe a magnifying glass would help you see if it's not clear.


It's a Polaris ATV (I don't know yet which model), and I'm told it goes to a sensor on the carburetor. The mark at the top center of the connector (terminal side) is just a blank rectangle. The only numbers I can find are on the fifth photo I posted.

quote:
Originally posted by snidera:
I work with car wire harnesses daily.
It's a yazaki connector,


Yazaki! I didn’t think of them.

quote:
Originally posted by snidera:
Push the wire in slightly.
Use a small screwdriver that fits easily between the top of the terminal and the plastic, can't be tight. Slide it along the terminal until you feel it stop, then lift/pry the tab up slightly & pull the wire out.


That's the method I'm familiar with. Prior to this morning, I just wasn't having any luck finding/feeling a tab that would move.

quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Found this

https://findpigtails.com/conne...&product_title=E62A3


That’s a great find. I’ll be bookmarking that site.

quote:
Originally posted by ubelongoutside:
My neighbor works for Yazaki. I'm sending him the picture now. I'll let you know what he says.


Awesome. Thank you.
I'd love to have a part number for that connector and the associated terminals.




God bless America.
June 24, 2021, 07:09 PM
vthoky
quote:
Originally posted by ubelongoutside:
He didn't have an answer as to disassembly, but might have one laying around.

What's your end goal? Disassembly to reattach to the wires? Would a replacement solve the disassembly issue?


Yes, the intent is to replace the connector and terminals. The wires have been cut and we're attempting to rehab that connection.

We did manage to get the terminals out today, inserting a tiny-diameter probe and finally finding a tab to release them. Are fresh terminals and seals available? I'd love to be able to recrimp these leads and put it back into service.




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June 24, 2021, 08:27 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:

This site seems like complete nonsense to me. I just had a headlight conversion harness made for $110 using all the factory brand connectors.
There are a total of 12 connectors in all for both sides of the harnesses. All but 1 type of connector is listed in that site and all are $79.
Using that site as a supplier would put the harness at well over $800.


Maybe in your case it doesn't work out or make good financial sense but that doesn't make the whole site nonsense.
It was a savior to me as I was out of options.
YMMV
June 24, 2021, 09:04 PM
Black92LX
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:

This site seems like complete nonsense to me. I just had a headlight conversion harness made for $110 using all the factory brand connectors.
There are a total of 12 connectors in all for both sides of the harnesses. All but 1 type of connector is listed in that site and all are $79.
Using that site as a supplier would put the harness at well over $800.


Maybe in your case it doesn't work out or make good financial sense but that doesn't make the whole site nonsense.
It was a savior to me as I was out of options.
YMMV


You are correct complete nonsense not quite the right phrasing but most of the connectors I am seeing on the site aren’t obsolete and can be had for a few dollars elsewhere and they want $79.


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The world's not perfect, but it's not that bad.
If we got each other, and that's all we have.
I will be your brother, and I'll hold your hand.
You should know I'll be there for you!
June 27, 2021, 07:24 PM
snidera
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
quote:
Originally posted by Black92LX:

This site seems like complete nonsense to me. I just had a headlight conversion harness made for $110 using all the factory brand connectors.
There are a total of 12 connectors in all for both sides of the harnesses. All but 1 type of connector is listed in that site and all are $79.
Using that site as a supplier would put the harness at well over $800.


Maybe in your case it doesn't work out or make good financial sense but that doesn't make the whole site nonsense.
It was a savior to me as I was out of options.
YMMV


You are correct complete nonsense not quite the right phrasing but most of the connectors I am seeing on the site aren’t obsolete and can be had for a few dollars elsewhere and they want $79.


You wouldn't believe how much of a pain in the ass it is to get/make one-off, to order, automotive parts. The price reflects that.
Somehow my former office number got in the yellow pages, I'd get at least 1 call per week from someone trying to get 1 connector & terminals like this. The distributor I refer them to charges $50 for any quantity less than 100.