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Imagine the government saying, “Women, are you worried about the tight labor market, compounded by a gender Glass Ceiling? Don’t worry, we’re going to add more workers, mostly men.” Or, “Black and Latino owners of small businesses, are you getting hammered by Covid-19? Don’t worry, we’re bringing more small entrepreneurs from the outside, so that they can undercut your prices and dilute your market share.”

Or even better, “You Asian-American engineers and programmers out there, we know that hiring in the tech industry has slowed down, and that you already faced rampant age discrimination in the industry. But don’t worry, we’re going to reverse Trump’s order to temporarily restrict H-1B, so we can continue to have people compete with you for jobs at low wages.” No kidding on this one, because that is basically what Joe Biden said, in a June 27 digital town hall meeting focusing on Asian American issues.

Nationwide, about 25% of computer-related Bachelor’s degrees are awarded to Asian-American students (note: NOT Asian foreign students). In states with large Asian-American populations, it’s even higher, over 70% at my university.

I’m sure the image of American techies on the Hill is of “undeserving whites,” but the fact is that the field has always attracted a lot of Asian-American students, who tend to gravitate to “practical” majors. I wonder whether Biden watched the major 60 Minutes piece in 2017 about the protests by American IT people replaced at UCSF by H-1Bs. There were a number of Asian-Americans (and some blacks) among the protestors.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
My industry as well. Ain’t just fucking software engineers, it’s all of IT, period. That’s voice and data people from architects, engineers, desktop support, management, mid level management, you fucking name it. It’s about got damn time. I’ve been waiting for Trump to do this (He talked about it on the campaign trail) since he got into office. The company I work for laid off 90% of staff a few years ago and hired an Indian firm, and replaced the 90% with H!B Visas.

That program is supposed to be for talent we do not have in country. Instead these bastard corporations use it as a way to cut some salary and pinch pennies. I know what they make, and it’s not much less than what American workers make. It’s bullshit. Kudos President, thank you. Now we get can get IT people (and every other industry) out from delivering pizza and waiting on tables (young people jobs), etc, and back into real jobs. I have seen this shit ruin lives, and it’s happened to me. Shadowing. You train the H1B to take your job and you get severance. If you refuse to train them how to do your job then they walk you out. Disney was one of the first companies I read about pulling this shit, then everyone started doing it.

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Originally posted by bryan11:


^^I've personally seen this in several companies. The last place I worked had a rule to always hire H1Bs because they cost 30% less than Americans. Entire departments were replaced with new ones in India, then the Americans were laid off. It's all about cost. H1B workers are mostly single so benefits are cheaper, they don't file workers comp or HR complaints, and are more easily controlled.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
I feel Trump needs to focus getting the illegals out, making it a little easier for GOOD immigrants to come here legally, etc.

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Originally posted by LoungeChair:
The system needs to be trashed and rethought.

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Originally posted by senza nome:
quality

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Originally posted by GrumpyMCO:
Disney was in the news a few years back when they brought a bunch of H1B's over and had the existing IT staff train them as their replacements - then let the existing staff go - at least that's how I remember it being reported.

Not sure if it got reported outside of Florida much - but it was a big deal in the local news. I get that companies have to look after the bottom line - but anyway you slice it - that was a pretty d$ck move by Disney.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
If I, as an HR person, could not verify the information the candidate provides, wouldn't that eliminate him from hiring? Or does mere possession of an H1B get him in the door?

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Disclaimer: I am not an HR person, nor am I that familiar with the IT industry.
However, my question is:
So how does a company go about getting an actual background check or skills /education / training qualifications confirmation on someone from India?
Or anyplace outside the U.S? Except Canada, maybe.
If I, as an HR person, could not verify the information the candidate provides, wouldn't that eliminate him from hiring? Or does mere possession of an H1B get him in the door?