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It will soon write code from prompts. It's coming.

It's been here, see my post halfway down the page. Or the number of times I've said it here. It goes far beyond art. Lawyers, accountants, tax preparer, coders/programers. You're going to have AI writing code for itself at some point, if it's not already.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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It will soon write code from prompts. It's coming.

It's been here, see my post halfway down the page. Or the number of times I've said it here. It goes far beyond art. Lawyers, accountants, tax preparer, coders/programers. You're going to have AI writing code for itself at some point, if it's not already.

Yes. Yes it will if allowed.

There is precedent of markets having room for both authentic and knock-off versions.

Diamonds are the first example that comes to my mind. Even though both "real" diamonds and cubit zircon are intrinsically worthless, people still pay eye-rolling amounts for their shiny bobbles.

And of course, as SC mentioned above, art itself has always had its masterpieces, originals, and their copies. The value is in scarcity of the real works, but even then it's entirely subjective and always has been.

Now I'm not ready to take on the other topics mentioned as I don't have a good feeling that folks will really seek out human Lawyers, accountants, and such instead of what will soon be proven AI versions. Where would the value be in those cases? Turbo Tax is already pretty popular.

What I'm trying to spit out is that I think art is one human endeavor that will continue to be valued more so when it is human.

BTW, this post was written by me, but I checked its grammar with a free website.

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Originally posted by apprentice:
What I'm trying to spit out is that I think art is one human endeavor that will continue to be valued more so when it is human.

How do you prove it was done by a human? Will there be a gallery of witnesses watch a man paint a picture, and their sworn affadavits accompany the painting? Will a photographer have to have witnesses follow him around and swear he actually took the images?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
You guys realize this means the death of artists and before too long, artisans, don't you?

Just like robots was the death of welders and other journey level workers on the factory floor. In the mid 1990's, I worked with a guy who said when he started (and I don't know when he started, but let's say maximum was in 1975), they had 15 planners to do less work than the work 5 people, including me, were doing. My Vice President in early 2000, told me he used to manually write the sales figure for each product in a ledger; and it didn't look like he was over 50 at the time. I really was surprised because at that time, we were using a mini main frame that uploads all the sales from all the sales agents and sales distributors and even calculate the override commissions in corporate for each person in the multi-level marketing business.

On the other hand, masters of their crafts will continue to thrive just like master welders and other professionals have; granted that getting the experience to build up to that level is going to be pretty slim.

Still on the other hand, I remember a story about when robots were started to be introduced to car manufacturing plants and the union leader said, go ahead and see if robots will buy your cars.

There are downsides to technological progress. For example, the calculator got rid of the slide rule and just about anyone can become an engineer after not having to go through the hurdle of mastering a slide rule. But we are left with people who can't do basic math with just paper and pencil. The calculator which does the number crunching for people, have atrophied people's ability to grasp math concepts on a deeper level along with their ability to do mental calculations.

As people start use AI to solve word problems, it will do likewise as the calculator. It will atrophy people's ability to grasp logic concepts on a deeper level and their ability to do critical thinking. We already have a large segment of the population unable to think critically about issues and are satisfied accepting without qualification and regurgitating talking points fed to them by their preference of choice.

If you mean a machine with a brush doing the work, I can definitely see your point. Otherwise, though, my guess is verification would be done with whatever techniques have always been in place.

Forgery is a real problem, and experts are sometimes required, but AI is just the latest challenge, not the first.

It isn't that I think I have any of the answers, just that I'm hopeful that the more things change, the more they will stay the same, so to speak.

Hey guys, or gals, or meat popsicles, whatever you identify as.

Are you capitalists? If not, then protest AI, and the taking of jobs.

Have you ever watched Thomas the Tank Engine? A harmless kids show right? What is the main takeaway?

Always be useful.

Listen, assholes.

From the earliest ingot of the industrial revolution, to the latest AI bot, only one thing matters. Be useful or enjoy unemployment. If that's a problem, move to China, you pussy.

Improvise, adapt, overcome, or move out of The United States of America, because we don't need your bullshit.

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
Hey guys, or gals, or meat popsicles, whatever you identify as.

Are you capitalists? If not, then protest AI, and the taking of jobs.

Have you ever watched Thomas the Tank Engine? A harmless kids show right? What is the main takeaway?

Always be useful.

Listen, assholes.

From the earliest ingot of the industrial revolution, to the latest AI bot, only one thing matters. Be useful or enjoy unemployment. If that's a problem, move to China, you pussy.

Improvise, adapt, overcome, or move out of The United States of America, because we don't need your bullshit.

Jobs are not my problem. Bots currently have or within 10 - 15 years (probably sooner) will likely have all of these characteristics in one machine:

Stronger than you
Faster than you
Have better hearing than you
Have better sight than you
Have better object recognition than you
Will be bullet proof
Will be better armed than you
Have the ability to never make the same mistake twice
Have the ability to diagnose their own problems and fix them (hardware and software)
Think nearly as well as you and never forget a thing
Thank faster than you
Operate autonomously in a very efficient fashion

Improvising, adapting, and overcoming would be a very tall task if this tech moves in a bad direction. Losing my job to a bot is not even on my AI worry list. Currently AI is an extremely useful tool I use on a daily basis. I would like it to stay that way. Regulating AI will likely not be effective. My worry is smart minds addressing what to do if this goes off the rails seem to be few and very far between.

Society's morality has not advanced nearly enough to keep up with this advancement in technology. In fact, morality has regressed over the past few decades. That is the problem, and the reason the net result of AI will be bad.

Ribbit

Link to Article

Photographer refuses award at top photography prize after revealing winning image was made by AI
‘I applied to find out if competitions are prepared for AI images to enter. They are not,’ artist wrote

A German photographer has turned down a prestigious prize after revealing that his winning photograph was created using artificial intelligence.

Boris Eldagsen was named the winner in the creative open category at the Sony World Photography Awards, with his black and white photograph Pseudomnesia / The Electrician. The image shows a young woman standing in front of the camera while an older woman stands behind her.

However, one week after he won the prize, Eldagsen shared a statement on his website announcing that he “would not accept the awards”.

“I applied as a cheeky monkey, to find out, if the competitions are prepared for AI images to enter. They are not,” he wrote.

“We, the photo world, need an open discussion. A discussion about what we want to consider photography and what not. Is the umbrella of photography large enough to invite AI images to enter – or would this be a mistake?”

I'm curious to see what these things would create using political figures with the same instructions. Maybe not in this thread as not to turn it political


President Trump gives motivational speech at a rally


President Biden gives motivational speech at rally

Wanted to see the difference in a possible bias

They look pretty much like what I would expect either of them to look like. The only bias I see is the AI showing all the Biden supporters in masks.





You can if you want make him look like a evil though by saying "Biden giving angry authoritarian speech 1940's German imagery" and prompting with a famous image.





I see no problem with exploring the biases within the software as it pertains to politics and its outputs. It has already been shown in the text AIs to be biased.

That's pretty cool. They put a teleprompter in front of Biden. I wonder why the odd words on Trump signs?

I've seen enough. What in the world are you doing posting fake images of Donald Trump? That's the last straw for me.

I suggest to everyone to wake the fuck up. This is not fun, it's dangerous.

I'm giving fair warning that this thread is going to be locked.

I don't EVER want to see fake images of Donald Trump on the pages of this forum. Hasn't he been harassed enough? My God.

I guess we can start nailing down the coffin lid for music too. AI can write lyrics, compose music and sing.

wrong thread

I remember the good old days when if you wanted a really cool picture you had to be very careful with set up, lighting, camera angle, etc. You clicked the shutter then had to wait a minimum of an hour to see if your shot even came out right or was a total waste.

No touching up, no adjusting tint, light source, shadows, hues, etc. A picture was a picture.

Late to this thread

Fucking Creepy.