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London Mayor: There is never a reason to carry a knife. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law Login/Join 
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I wonder if the mayor will be as tough on his fellow Muslim invaders as the indigenous population...


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I wonder when the mayor of London will feel the full force of the Brits


Excellent questions.




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OK, I just saw this thread and have a very serious question...

I will be stopping over in London for a few days in a couple of weeks on my way to Botswana for vacation. I am/was planning on checking my locking pocket knife which is just under 3 inches.

Do I understand that this is now illegal and I could be arrested? There is no way I want to be anywhere without at least a small knife...

Thanks.

IIRC, locking blade knives have been banned there since the lat 80’s. You might plan on bringing a standard folder with less than 3” blade-unless they get banned during your flight...

ETA- it appears the law against locking knives is while carried in public, so having it in your luggage SHOULD pose no problem. In any case, I would go buy a cheap folder with less than a 3” blade to be safe.




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Originally posted by smlsig:
OK, I just saw this thread and have a very serious question...

I will be stopping over in London for a few days in a couple of weeks on my way to Botswana for vacation. I am/was planning on checking my locking pocket knife which is just under 3 inches.

Do I understand that this is now illegal and I could be arrested? There is no way I want to be anywhere without at least a small knife...

Thanks.

IIRC, locking blade knives have been banned there since the lat 80’s. You might plan on bringing a standard folder with less than 3” blade-unless they get banned during your flight...


Laws on knives from the source:
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

Selling, buying and carrying knives

The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.

Basic laws on knives
It’s illegal to:

sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less
carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less
carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)

Scotland
In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.

Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:

have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener
Banned knives and weapons

It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
gravity knives
stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
push daggers
blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
hand or foot-claws
knuckledusters

Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.

Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon
Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

taking knives you use at work to and from work
taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it
A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.



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I just saw this news article re NYC (somewhat akin to London)

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Top aide of gun-control advocate Bill de Blasio is arrested on weapon charges after she's found in a car with a loaded pistol near the scene of a shooting in Queens

Reagan Stevens, 42, is a deputy director at the mayor's Office of Criminal Justice
She was found on Saturday night in a double-parked car with two men in Queens
Cops found a nine-mm gun with the serial number defaced inside the glove box
Montel Hughes, 24, and driver Caesar Forbes, 25, reportedly also had knives
The car was parked near where a 'ShotSpotter' had just detected five gunshots
New York City mayor Bill De Blasio notoriously supports strict gun laws


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Lock knives...

... can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener


I guess I need to find a new multi-tool.

Think they'll object to my trekking pole with the carbide tip?





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“Top aide of gun-control advocate Bill de Blasio is arrested on weapon charges after she's found in a car with a loaded pistol near the scene of a shooting in Queens”

More “do as I say, not as I do” from the hypocritical left.




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.. or religious purposes....

So carrying for a Jihad killing is okay.



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.. or religious purposes....

So carrying for a Jihad killing is okay.



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Well, London IS a Muslim city...




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t's not just UK. Much of Europe is bent on self-destruction by their refusal to defend their nation, their culture, their people.


Well, for one, they have not had a real reason/need to worry about defending their nations, cultures, peoples, etc.

We have been doing it for decades, at our expense!

I spent more than 11 years in Germany, 9+ years in the army. Watching the E/W border. I also spent time doing maneuver damage investigations to settle up with the German government. I.e. WE PAID THEM FOR THE DAMAGE!

We built housing areas for our troops and families, as well as military bases. All, or most, of which was gifted to Germany.


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Originally posted by gearhounds:
ETA- it appears the law against locking knives is while carried in public, so having it in your luggage SHOULD pose no problem. In any case, I would go buy a cheap folder with less than a 3” blade to be safe.

Yes, because God forbid you should carry a knife that cannot be inadvertently closed on your fingers while using it.

Many moons ago my wife-to-be and I, along with some friends, took a shopping charter from the Continent to London. It was interesting and we had a good time. (The charter flight was the least expensive part of the trip, btw. London was expensive even then.)

I wouldn't do that today. Not due to fear, but lack of interest.



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I am/was planning on checking my locking pocket knife which is just under 3 inches.


a couple years ago my visit to a SSA office, confronted by a 40mm Glock-armed/body armored-tazer/mace enhanced totally humorless female guard, who discovered my pocket 'weapon' was 3.10" long and nearly arrested me face down, etc. Photoed me, the weapon, my ID, & warned severely about carry of such destructive devices. Only a call from her supervisor aborted her programed response. I was responding to the SSA request for a face-to-face interrogation...er, 'interview'.....


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^^^ Thanks everyone.
I guess I'll do as gearhounds recommended and buy a cheap short folder and pray I don't have to use it..

Do they have metal detectors going into museums?


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Balze, the pensioner in London was arrested on charges of suspicion of grievous bodily harm and suspicion of murder. He killed a robber who had entered his home-- and he was arrested. If you don't think that is outrageous... shameful... I don't know what is.

https://www.independent.co.uk/...-death-a8287851.html



The story was updated. He won't face charges. Of course I think it's outrageous that he was ever arrested in the first place, but that's apparently standard over there whenever there is a homicide.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...t&utm_medium=twitter

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Where are these men you know? When hundreds of Swedish, French, German women are raped in the street on New Year's Eve-- where are their men?

I have less and less sympathy for Europeans, by the day.


Jesus, you act as if things are just so peachy here in the US when we have police officers cowering in fear instead of engaging a shooter to save the lives of children. I don't defend Europe and their light speed descent to ruin, but we're fortunate in the US to have had forefathers with the foresight to put in protections that would help at least to slow roll the degradation of our society.

Who are these men I know? They are men like the French soldier Arnaud Beltrame who sacrificed his life for the life of a woman held hostage by a terrorist. It's ridiculous and frankly uniformed to paint entire nations as accepting and sympathetic to these atrocities when over half the voting population in our very own country would happily go down the same path as Europe.


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They deserve whatever they get for electing that POS!


I'm betting you that not a single one of those involved in knife crime took the trouble to vote for anybody in the London mayoral election.

They are just not that kind of person, added to that that only one of the perps so far apprehended was of voting age. Most of the knifers are in their early teens.

Let me just make this clear - again.

50 DEATHS so far this year of which 49 were blacks.

Killed by OTHER blacks.

For drugs/gang rivalry, 'respect' or lack of it.

I can't make it any clearer than that.

tac
 
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Don't worry. The police will protect you.

 
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Let me just make this clear - again.
50 DEATHS so far this year of which 49 were blacks.
Killed by OTHER blacks.

So... if you are white they will let you keep your knife?
No... no.... that would be racist!



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Originally posted by SIG228:
They deserve whatever they get for electing that POS!


I'm betting you that not a single one of those involved in knife crime took the trouble to vote for anybody in the London mayoral election.

They are just not that kind of person, added to that that only one of the perps so far apprehended was of voting age. Most of the knifers are in their early teens.

Let me just make this clear - again.

50 DEATHS so far this year of which 49 were blacks.

Killed by OTHER blacks.

For drugs/gang rivalry, 'respect' or lack of it.

I can't make it any clearer than that.

tac


Thanks for proving my point. Those who aren't committing crime will pay the price for those who are and for those who were stupid enough to vote that idiot into office.
 
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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Let me just make this clear - again.

50 DEATHS so far this year of which 49 were blacks.

Killed by OTHER blacks.

For drugs/gang rivalry, 'respect' or lack of it.

I can't make it any clearer than that.

tac

Coincidentally, the same as what we have here, only here they mostly use firearms. And, also coincidentally, government flaks want to "disarm" law-abiding citizens instead of actually addressing the real problem.



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Satire Warning for those that will think this is true. It is not. It's just appropriate for the discussion at hand.



LONDON—A “potentially dangerous situation” was defused by London police Monday morning, as a toddler cutting Play-Doh with a toy plastic pocketknife was tackled to the ground and apprehended by a Specialist Firearms Command unit, sources confirmed at the scene.

The toddler was happily cutting a lump of green-ish Play-Doh with his official Play-Doh pocketknife in his mum’s London flat when a Metro Police unit kicked his door down and charged in, bellowing for everyone to get down on the ground. Several other operatives dove through windows and rappelled from skylights, tossing tear gas and breaching doors throughout the home until the 3-year-old was neutralized.

Later reports revealed the toddler’s mother had called in the threat, as she saw her little boy playing with the knife and began fearing for her life. “We tried to raise him right, but at some point he just lost his way,” she said, holding back tears while covered in a police blanket. “You never know when they’re going to go astray.”

“Londoners can rest easy tonight knowing that one fewer little tyke is prowling the streets with a deadly cutting object,” London mayor Sadiq Khan said in an emergency press conference held after the confrontation. “There is never a good reason to carry a knife, and we will come down with the full force of the law on any other toddlers who use cutting utensils on modeling compounds.”

When the young boy was checked into the police station, officers reportedly found he was packing other dangerous weapons about his person, including an inflatable samurai sword, a Nerf pistol, and a suspicious green substance that later turned out to be “a giant, disgusting bogey.”

Toddler Brandishing Play-Doh Pocketknife Apprehended by UK Police


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