That's more than minimum wage even.

For over 40 years, my grandfather was a lineman with Detroit Edison. When he retired in his 60s, he was making a whopping $7.50/hour.

My first job was as a busboy at a country club making $2.01/hour plus tips. That was less than half of minimum wage, but the tips were supposed to make up for it.

I'm hoping my daughter brings home a loaf of Italian bread once in awhile.

If you can’t hire anyone at $10/hr, bump up the pay.

Supply and demand works for employees too.

It’s when the goobermint says companies have to start that hire a false market is created

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Originally posted by trapper189:
I'm hoping my daughter brings home a loaf of Italian bread once in awhile.

It'd be even better when she learns all the skills and can bake fresh bread in your own home.

Vail Resorts has had a $20/hour starting wage for anyone with a pulse for 3 years now. Higher skilled positions get you more money. The catch is most are 4 day positions where you might work more than an 8 hour day but supervisors are to make sure very, very few get over 40 hours meaning you could do 4 x 9.75 hour days with no overtime.

In Arizona that's around $26k take home, Tax rate is too high, they have to pay more than minimum wage. Lots of 18 year olds around here don't work, other than getting paid to have kids.
Withholding
Salary
$31,200
Federal Income Tax
- $1,985
State Income Tax
- $842
Social Security
- $1,934
Medicare
- $452
Total tax
- $5,214
Net pay
* $25,986
Marginal tax rate
22.4%
Average tax rate
16.7%
83.3%Net pay 16.7%Total tax

https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator/Arizona-31200

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Originally posted by corsair:
It'd be even better when she learns all the skills and can bake fresh bread in your own home.

Her interview was at three, but she just got home. It sounds like they’re going to start training her for cake decorating, so I guess no fresh bread at home.

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Originally posted by Blackmore:
The catch is most are 4 day positions where you might work more than an 8 hour day but supervisors are to make sure very, very few get over 40 hours meaning you could do 4 x 9.75 hour days with no overtime.

Personally, I'd consider that a selling point, not a "catch"!

4x10s is a very common shift schedule in police work.

I've worked 5x8s, 4x10s, and 3x12s/4x12s alternating, and 4x10s is my preference by far.

Having a 3 day weekend, or even better a day off midweek, more than makes up for the extra couple hours you spend at work. You're getting up, getting dressed, and going to work that day anyway, so might as well stick around a little longer in exchange for not having to do so for an extra day each week.

(But it's not exhausting like 12s, which is too far that direction.)

I currently work 4x10s, with Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays off. I never work more than 2 days in a row without either 1 or 2 days off. Every other workday is my "Friday". It's the perfect schedule.

Minimum wage here is $16.50 an hour. $10.50 more than it was for my “first job”.

That would be first non-family business job. I was bringing home the same amount as the family business, but only having to work 40 hours a week. lol
As Opposed to the family business where I was working 10 to 16 hour days, six sometimes seven days a week.

Downside was, I became an unpaid employee for the next 35 years.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by corsair:
It'd be even better when she learns all the skills and can bake fresh bread in your own home.

Her interview was at three, but she just got home. It sounds like they’re going to start training her for cake decorating, so I guess no fresh bread at home.

One step at a time.
Hopefully she takes to the type of work, builds up a good base of skills, and then either moves-up in the organization or, finds more opportunity with a private bakery/pastry shop or a catering business.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

I'm hoping my daughter brings home a loaf of Italian bread once in awhile.

My two favorite breads from Publix bakery are onion rye (unfortunately, discontinued), and the deli rye with caraway seeds.

Tabitha's son makes $20 an hour stocking groceries at night for Kroger.

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Originally posted by Blackmore:
Vail Resorts has had a $20/hour starting wage for anyone with a pulse for 3 years now. Higher skilled positions get you more money. The catch is most are 4 day positions where you might work more than an 8 hour day but supervisors are to make sure very, very few get over 40 hours meaning you could do 4 x 9.75 hour days with no overtime.

Four days of work...And THREE DAYS of skiing/snowboarding! What's not to like?

Fast food places are $20 - $22 an hour to start here.

Oregon's minimum wage is $14.70 standard rate, $15.95 in the Portland metro area and $13.70 for non-urban areas.

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Originally posted by corsair:
One step at a time.
Hopefully she takes to the type of work, builds up a good base of skills, and then either moves-up in the organization or, finds more opportunity with a private bakery/pastry shop or a catering business.

I hadn’t even thought of that. She wanted to work for Starbucks because she figured she could use that experience to get a job wherever she goes to college, but I suppose cake decorating would be portable as well.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by Blackmore:
Vail Resorts has had a $20/hour starting wage for anyone with a pulse for 3 years now. Higher skilled positions get you more money. The catch is most are 4 day positions where you might work more than an 8 hour day but supervisors are to make sure very, very few get over 40 hours meaning you could do 4 x 9.75 hour days with no overtime.

Four days of work...And THREE DAYS of skiing/snowboarding! What's not to like?

While I tend to agree, the big problem with that plan is there's no way $20/hr is going to pay the rent in that neck of the woods. You'd have to commute in from afar, eating into the pay as well.

Publix is a more desirable job if you’re 16 than flipping burgers. All the kids that work at publix where I shop are super friendly and courteous. My teen son has applied multiple times to the one very close to home and can’t even get an interview. Won’t listen to my advice of having his friend thag work there help him out but what do I know.

Appears to be similar biz plan to In N Out and other big shops. Pay a bit more than prevailing wage for entry level and you will have the pick of the litter for that level of employee, i.e. the super friendly, smarter than average teen

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For this kind of work you want young, attractive, cheerful people who are willing to work hard. That lets me out.

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Originally posted by ElToro:
My teen son has applied multiple times to the one very close to home and can’t even get an interview. Won’t listen to my advice of having his friend thag work there help him out but what do I know.

She put a friend who works there, is a senior, and been accepted to UF down as a reference. Judging by how she told me the interview went, they must have talked to him and had their minds made up beforehand.

If my daughter’s experience is any indication, your son should listen to you and put the friend down as a reference.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Tabitha's son makes $20 an hour stocking groceries at night for Kroger.

union too?


been almost 10 yrs since I left that company and that business, and was told things have changed significantly in hiring practices and wages since I was with them,



back then we struggled to get new hires since the union scale, done by contract, was poorly written, so if we did hire someone, they got paid cheap, but then again so did all the other help, much much cheaper than what I used to hire folks for at Winn Dixie,

but then again, W/D, as a public company, went tits up in 2004/2005

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by corsair:
One step at a time.
Hopefully she takes to the type of work, builds up a good base of skills, and then either moves-up in the organization or, finds more opportunity with a private bakery/pastry shop or a catering business.

I hadn’t even thought of that. She wanted to work for Starbucks because she figured she could use that experience to get a job wherever she goes to college, but I suppose cake decorating would be portable as well.

cake decorators made a premium at both Groc Chains I managed, a good cake decorator is harder to find than a good meat cutter,