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Does your local L.E. have an MRAP critical response vehicle ?
July 16, 2024, 08:18 PM
bendableDoes your local L.E. have an MRAP critical response vehicle ?
Or Bear cat ,or do they have access to one from a nearby source ?
Are they pretty common ?
Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.
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July 16, 2024, 08:38 PM
a1abdjYes, but they aren’t that great for most things. Most of the LEAs in my area run bearcats which are much better suited.
July 16, 2024, 08:45 PM
PCWyomingYes. The Sheriff drives it the local car show-------once a year.
PC
July 16, 2024, 09:02 PM
PeteFMy town has a few. My town is subject to flooding, so they are mostly used to pull people from flooded houses. I believe 1 is set up as a mobile command post for street fairs etc.
July 16, 2024, 09:03 PM
bendableBear cat, that's what I meant.
Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.
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July 16, 2024, 09:05 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
Yes, but they aren’t that great for most things.
This. MRAPs only have niche uses, require specialized training to operate, have high maintenance costs/needs, and have a number of drawbacks (poor visibility, high center of gravity, etc.)
Bearcats or similar are much better suited for LE needs.
quote:
Originally posted by PCWyoming:
Yes. The Sheriff drives it the local car show-------once a year.
Much like all those 1033 Hummers that many agencies jumped on a decade or more ago, just to be driven once a year for a parade or other public exhibition (if that), and otherwise left to rot in back parking lots.
July 16, 2024, 11:26 PM
357fuzzWe have one. Used once or twice. The agency next to us has one or two Bearcats.Last October they had one of theirs shot to shit by a bad guy w/ an AR. Bad guy disabled it by radiator and tire hits. Had to tow it away. I know some of the guys that were in it that night. One of them said he hasn’t heard rounds impact like that and w/ that particular frequency since his time in Iraq.
July 16, 2024, 11:44 PM
ftttuI saw an MRAP parked at at the Ector County Jail in Odessa, Texas back in ‘13/‘14 when I had business with them. I always thought it would rarely ever get used in such a relatively small jurisdiction, and that it would be very difficult and expensive to maintain.
My agency had a dedicated SWAT vehicle, but we also had a couple of .gov HUMVEEs, which were never put into service.
Retired Texas Lawman
July 17, 2024, 12:47 AM
92fstechOur agency has none of that stuff. The Sheriff's office and City PD both have surplus Hummvess. They're not armored, and both agencies use them for SWAT guy photoshoots and parades. Both of those agencies also have designated SWAT vehicles...County has an old ambulance and City has an old school bus that they painted black.
State Police have a Bearcat....I've seen it out a few times but never been on a call with it.
July 17, 2024, 01:01 AM
YooperSigsMSP has Bearcats. The county has GI surplus HummVees that are useless.
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July 17, 2024, 04:32 AM
downtownvquote:
Originally posted by PeteF:
My town has a few. My town is subject to flooding, so they are mostly used to pull people from flooded houses. I believe 1 is set up as a mobile command post for street fairs etc.
Ocean and Monmouth Counties have quite a few at their disposal. But Humvees are much more prominent. Again mostly for flooding conditions as you pointed out. They did use one for OC swat last week in Toms River.
July 17, 2024, 07:34 AM
sigarms229Local agency's in my area, no. A few of the counties in my area have a bearcat for the swat type teams.
Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six
July 17, 2024, 08:22 AM
a1abdjquote:
My town is subject to flooding, so they are mostly used to pull people from flooded houses.
Anybody who gets into (or uses) a MRAP for flood issues is really risking it. Very heavy, and very top heavy. The perfect combination for soft waterlogged ground, compromised roads, and deep water.
If you're in a flood and need to be rescued, I'd decline the MRAP and wait for a boat.
July 17, 2024, 09:18 AM
BOATTRASH1OKaloosa County Sherif's office has 2 Bearcats I believe and an MRAP. They also have a box truck painted black and several black suburbans.
July 17, 2024, 09:44 AM
arfmelThey have a Kawasaki Mule, here.
July 17, 2024, 09:57 AM
L90814Volusia Sheriff's Office (FL) has two Bearcats, Daytona Beach Police Department also has one. They've been used numerous times dealing with armed suspects.
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July 17, 2024, 10:29 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
I like it.

July 17, 2024, 10:40 AM
trapper189Our sheriff drives a Jeep:
SWAT had an MRAP years ago but now has a Bearcat.
July 18, 2024, 03:18 AM
DaBigBRWe have an MRAP that is shared among agencies within the county, which is too liberal to fund a proper armored vehicle. Our LE admin is too afraid of the optics of the thing to use it for most tactical operations (and they have literally offered counseling services to members of the public who were "traumatized" by seeing it when it was used). They are also not ideal for many locations. It has been useful in flooding.
It is unfortunate. Armor has the potential to reduce the likelihood of a police shooting.