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Sunday's Crossword Puzzle in the New York Times
December 19, 2022, 10:47 AM
Balzé HalzéSunday's Crossword Puzzle in the New York Times
On the first day of Hanukkah, this is the crossword puzzle put out in the New York Times. A silhouette of a swastika:
Coincidence?
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December 19, 2022, 10:51 AM
ScreamingCockatooWow. Is this in retaliation to the layoffs?
Someone else is gonna lose their job…
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December 19, 2022, 11:00 AM
Ronin1069I guess I’m the idiot, but what am I missing?
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December 19, 2022, 11:01 AM
Balzé HalzéYou don't see the obvious silhouette of a swastika? It screams out at you.
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December 19, 2022, 11:04 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You don't see the obvious silhouette of a swastika? It screams out at you.
You can point it out without calling the member blind. I had to do a double take myself.
December 19, 2022, 11:04 AM
HRKquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
You don't see the obvious silhouette of a swastika? It screams out at you.
Do now, was the same for me as Ronin, was looking at the clues for something in those that was a problem...
December 19, 2022, 11:08 AM
Balzé HalzéNoted. Sorry, fellas. OP edited to be more clear.
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December 19, 2022, 11:08 AM
Ronin1069I guess I see it now…and although I’m no fan of The NY Times (as discussed in a recent thread where I talked about canceling my subscription), it is difficult for me to believe that The NY Times did this intentionally.
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December 19, 2022, 11:25 AM
Balzé HalzéI noticed just now when I look at the image up close like on my PC screen, it's not as obvious, but "from a distance" like looking at it on my phone's screen (when I first saw it), it's quite a bit more obvious.
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December 19, 2022, 11:34 AM
Lefty SigMaybe not intentionally, but the editor that let it through should be fired.
"Despite the online speculation, Jordan Cohen, executive director of communications at the Times, told Newsweek that the only intentional aspect of the crossword's appearance was its symmetry.
"This is a common crossword design: Many open grids in crosswords have a similar spiral pattern because of the rules around rotational symmetry and black squares," Cohen said in a statement."
https://www.newsweek.com/new-y...les-swastika-1768153December 19, 2022, 11:53 AM
OregonCoincidence? Probably. I have a hard time believing that there's a subversive neo-nazi crossword nerd underground.
quote:
Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Maybe not intentionally, but the editor that let it through should be fired.
I will respectfully disagree. Intent should still count for something.
As much as I like to see the NYT get hammered, I am tired of everything being labeled as a "dog whistle" or somehow having surreptitious meanings.
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December 19, 2022, 12:00 PM
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December 19, 2022, 12:04 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
I guess I see it now…and although I’m no fan of The NY Times (as discussed in a recent thread where I talked about canceling my subscription), it is difficult for me to believe that The NY Times did this intentionally.
I also think this is inadvertant. It would be hard to imagine the NYT doing this intentionally. And, it doesn't scream swastika to my eyes anyway.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. December 19, 2022, 12:12 PM
RightwireHoly cow.... when I pulled this up, before even reading the text, that jumped right out of the image at me.
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. December 19, 2022, 01:42 PM
Southern RebelI guess I am immune to swastika images. When I first saw it, all I saw was a crossword puzzle.
It's kinda like people seeing clouds that "look just like ....". Yeah, I can sorta see what they see after they point it out to me, but usually I see clouds!
December 19, 2022, 01:43 PM
9mmepiphanyquote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
And, it doesn't scream swastika to my eyes anyway.
Yup, not obvious at all.
It was only after it was described did I "sort of" see it...maybe
I guess if someone were looking to be offended, it would be more obvious
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December 19, 2022, 01:45 PM
WaterburyBobIt's not a very good swastika image if it was done intentionally.
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December 19, 2022, 01:57 PM
Patrick-SP2022Likely unintentional.
Reminds of the MS Wingdings Font controversy from years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingdings quote:
In 1992, only days after the release of Windows 3.1, it was discovered that the characters "NYC" (New York City) in Wingdings was rendered as a skull and crossbones symbol, Star of David, and thumbs up gesture. This was often said to be an antisemitic message referencing New York's large Jewish community.[8] Microsoft strongly denied this was intentional, and insisted that the final arrangement of the glyphs in the font was largely random. "NYC" in the later-released Webdings font was intentionally rendered as eye, heart, and city skyline, referring to the I Love New York logo.[9])
December 19, 2022, 01:58 PM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
It's not a very good swastika image if it was done intentionally.
Another example of spending one’s life looking for something to be offended by. I know swastikas and I would have never noticed it if it hadn’t been pointed out.
And if Hitler, Himmler, et al., are still looking on, they can once more take some gratification that although they were defeated militarily, they still can score one victory after another in the battles to influence people and never be forgotten.
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I can tell at sight a Chassepot rifle from a javelin. December 19, 2022, 02:00 PM
FlashlightboyWifey plays the NYT crossword all the time. Weird shapes and patterns are common and this is a nothing sammie.
Different people come up with the puzzles and the layouts are dependent on the what puzzle maker his in mind aka long answer, intersecting answer, phrases contained in the puzzle once it's completed and so on.
Saying the NYT purposefully allowed a swastika in, IMO, is fantasy and conjecture by people who aren't puzzle players.