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A good lawyer is what they need. If there's any way to do it, I'd sue the ever-loving shit out of those meddling leftist assholes.
 
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In New Mexico we started online classes again this week. So tuesday the second day of classes a 6th grade boy in Albuquerque was wearing a Trump hat. The online teacher told the boy he had to remove that hat. The young man refused saying he can wear what ever hat he wants in his own home. So teacher claims she a took screen shot so she could report him and have the boy removed from her class.

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The easy answer is a virtual background and zoom even supplies them. I work in my garage and have weekly zoom calls. First thing I did was install a generic virtual background so folks couldn’t see my messy garage and gun safe sitting there

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My grandson changed his background to himself so it looked like he was on zoom.
The teacher contacted my daughter saying your son is not moving or blinking is something wrong. Grandson told his mom that he didn't think the teacher needs to watch him but he's listening and doing his work.
 
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Suing would require some sort of damages, an act of failure to act by the school, and a causal link. Short of some bogus-ass "emotional distress" claim (so distressing we ran to the media!), they've got squat.

And I don't agree with the school's actions one bit
 
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Imagine if he had a gun shaped pop tart lying around....



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Public education needs to go. The scamdemic has just illustrated the fact that when push comes to shove, the districts will bow to the teachers union, no matter of the damage to the children.

Over the last 3 years locally we have had numerous sex scandals that have been covered up. We had a male coach that was sexually abusing students, that got caught, and ultimately decided to get into a shoot out with the cops trying to arrest him. He was shot and killed. We've had a superintendent that got caught financing personal vacations on the company dime, he resigned instead of facing charges, and two weeks later was hired one district over for about the same money.

We had a principle that admitted to the cops that he covered up sex abuse claims in his school. He was charged. The prosecutor was all on board and did a press conference and everything. Then all of a sudden one day, the prosecutor reversed himself and out of the blue dropped the charges. And after a few months the PROSECUTOR made a motion to destroy all evidence in the case. The principle? Oh he was elevated to assistant superintendent for keeping the faith.

They do not care about your kids. They aren't in it for the best interest of your kids. They are in it for the district first, and the teachers union second. Concern for the kids is down around 9 or 14.




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Be sure you all understand the red flag laws in your communities.

Don't open yourself up to confiscation and worse.

Fight it at every level, but without making you and yours the test case.

Plug this phrase into your favorite search engine:
"Polk county red flag law abuse"



"FL Red Flag Law Abused – I Warned You
It’s considered impolite to say, “I told you so”, but here I think it’s an important reminder of the need to know what legislation can do before actually making it law. In an article from Fox 4 Southwest Florida we see several examples of a so called Red Flag Law being abused, not only against innocent adults, but against children as well.

I found the opening paragraph enlightening:

Florida’s new red flag law – created to protect the public from future mass shooters – has temporarily stripped gun rights from more than 2,500 people across the state, including at least 100 kids, an I-Team review found.

Fox 4 – Children as young as 8-years-old face gun ban under Florida’s new red flag law
The focus of the article is the number of times children are being targeted by Florida’s new red flag law. However, I see a massive abuse of rights, and not just “gun rights”. This should surprise no one, as I enumerated the many rights these laws infringe on in my articles Red Flag Laws, Another Federal Attempt to Bribe States to Enact Red Flag Laws, and Brandon Masin and the Effects of Red Flag Laws. So let’s take a look at some of the infringement of Floridians’ rights beyond what I’ve already covered.

Freedom of Speech
Let’s start with freedom of speech. The article lists three examples of risk protections orders (RPOs) being issued based, apparently solely, on a person’s speech.

• A 91-year-old man, who claimed he wanted to “even the score” with his late wife’s alleged lover;
• A former U.S. Marine-turned-teacher, who admitted he told students during a lockdown drill how he could be “the best” school shooter;
• And an 8-year-old in Polk County who got mad at school and then threatened to “get a gun and shoot everybody up.”

Fox 4 – Children as young as 8-years-old face gun ban under Florida’s new red flag law
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https://constitutionstudy.com/...abused-i-warned-you/


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lawyer time right now. Sue the pants off of every single group as well as every individual who was involved. The school/ school board/the police/ as well as the teacher/teachers = I mean anybody who had anything to do with this. ..........drrill sgt.
 
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Tie funding to the child and watch private schools explode. I believe President Trump is looking at that during his second term.



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Posts: 4292 | Location: Saddlebrooke, Arizona | Registered: December 24, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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And teachers are afraid of parents listening in on their children's class session!!???

Teacher Worries Virtual Classrooms Will Let 'Conservative' Parents Hear Them Brainwashing Their Kids About 'Gender/Sexuality'
By Matt Margolis Aug 11, 2020 3:42 PM EST

Do you need another reason to homeschool your kids? You’re about to get one.

On Saturday, a teacher in Philadelphia started a thread on Twitter lamenting that the virtual-classroom model for school might prevent teachers from having “honest conversations about gender/sexuality” with students because parents might be listening.

“So, this fall, virtual class discussions will have many potential spectators — parents, siblings, etc. — in the same room. We’ll never be quite sure who is overhearing the discourse. What does this do for our equity/inclusion work?” tweeted Matthew R. Kay, a founding teacher at Science Leadership Academy (SLA).

“How much have students depended on the (somewhat) secure barriers of our physical classrooms to encourage vulnerability? How many of us have installed some version of ‘what happens here stays here’ to help this?” he continued.

So, according to Kay, lots of teachers encourage their students to keep secrets from their parents about what they’re being taught at school. That’s good to know.

Kay’s big concern is indoctrinating kids about sexuality.

“While conversations about race are in my wheelhouse, and remain a concern in this no-walls environment — I am most intrigued by the damage that ‘helicopter/snowplow’ parents can do in honest conversations about gender/sexuality,” he added. “And while ‘conservative’ parents are my chief concern — I know that the damage can come from the left too. If we are engaged in the messy work of destabilizing a kids [sic] racism or homophobia or transphobia — how much do we want their classmates’ parents piling on?”

Why shouldn't parents hear your "discourse". @MattRKay is hiding comments, he will not be able to hide this one.

Parents pay attention to what your kids are being taught. pic.twitter.com/FeMO4m8XlX
— Low&Slow (@ClaudesBBQ) August 9, 2020

While this is obviously just one Twitter thread, are we really expected to believe there aren’t a significant number of other teachers with the same concerns—that their attempts to brainwash kids with leftist propaganda will be hampered by the virtual class model during the pandemic? Kay even acknowledged this by asking how many teachers have some version of a “what happens here stays here” policy in their classrooms.

So, here we have a teacher treating parents, particularly conservative parents, as the enemy of the schools’ secret agenda to brainwash kids into being goodthinking leftists who buy into left-wing gender theory, and who knows what else.

When teachers are worried about what parents might think about what’s going on in the classroom then the teachers are doing something wrong. Any teachers who believe that parents should be kept in the dark about what goes on in the classroom are a danger to every child they instruct because they are abusing their power to teach kids propaganda instead of the basic elements of education.

Homeschooling looks better and better every day.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...er-sexuality-n775709

The article in the OP is exactly why parents should be listening in.

A comment I saw from a conservative to a Leftist regarding Trump's executive orders applies equally well in this case:

"Goose meet Gander, with a side of orange sauce!"




 
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That is some bull shit.

So some teacher called the cops because a kid had a rifle in the background of the home? GTFO.

This is how I can see me handling this call for service..

Knock knock,
Hello, I’m officer Mike and some bozo teacher called and said they could see your kid had a rifle on the wall in the background of his zoom meeting. And she is just scared to death about little Johnnys dangerous lifestyle.
I’m only here because I have to respond. Is your kid OK? Great. Sorry to bother you, have a nice day. BTW you might want to call the school board about this....I know I would.



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Posts: 11575 | Location: Temple, Texas! | Registered: October 07, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I always hated getting dispatched to calls like this because I always got in trouble because of my mouth.

I would have handled the call just like MikeinNC stated in his post. In fact I have handled calls like this the exact same way with almost the same words verbatim.

Situations like this put officers in a horrible situation. Even if they think it is a bogus BS call they still have to respond because if they don't they will be run up a flag pole. Heaven forbid a Sheriff or Police Chief makes a stand and tells the school what they can do with a call like this or actually tell them to handle it themselves and phone the house.
 
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“So, this fall, virtual class discussions will have many potential spectators — parents, siblings, etc. — in the same room. We’ll never be quite sure who is overhearing the discourse. What does this do for our equity/inclusion work?” tweeted Matthew R. Kay, a founding teacher at Science Leadership Academy (SLA).


For any parent with half a brain, that comment shouts volumes about their purpose to indoctrinate kids with their leftist/communist agenda rather than truly educate.
I've handled calls in the past very much like MikeinNC suggested when I knew it was BS from the start.
 
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Originally posted by comet24:
That teacher needs to go. Taking a picture of a kid's room when you're supposed to be teaching is wrong in so many ways.

The teacher is a government employee and took the picture while acting in that role. Can the picture be FOIA requested? I can understand not releasing it to anyone but the parents because it's of a child.

BTW that middle BB gun is the same one I had as a kid growing up.


And I've still got mine - bought in 1956, with the little bit of knotted whatever it is still in place. In fact, I'm going to go shoot it now, and in my mind the target is that crummy teacher's ass.
 
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Aside from the nonsense of the police being called for -gasp- a BB gun, this does bring to the forefront the fact that with all the home-schooling going on, formerly-private home interiors are going to get a lot more visibility to who-knows-whom.

And it's not just teachers. You never know if Junior's classmates turn out to have relatives or friends of the family who are prone, shall we say, to being informally-acquisitive. To avoid tempting folks like that, it might be time to make sure valuables or collectibles, as well as firearms, aren't where school videocams will pick them up in the background.
 
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That makes my blood boil, so to speak.

But full stop:

The failure of the mom to politely refuse entry is the first enormous problem in this story. Do people not discuss and have plans for this? I would council/educate my wife and family again about the door-opening rules, and ensure that sort of mistake doesn't happen again.

What the school did is inexcusable, I would also pull my child from the school immediately to end their influence and interference into our lives once and for all, Such fuckery cannot, under any circumstances, be allowed to continue. And if they, the school, won't do a 180 then remove yourself from the situation.

The kid's friends, glee club, football, yearbook club, none of that matters more than these things.

Move if you must.

But end that degree of meddling and the very possibility immediately and forever more.

This sort of meddlesome busybodyness and intrusions of privacy, in ones own home, is unforgivable, intolerable, and needs to be vanquished for the vile idea that it is and will always be.

That Teacher and Principal need to be shamed, humbled, and ran out of town, or at least mocked so relentlessly that they find new careers just to get through the day - or, change their stupid ways.
 
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Soon enough they'll be sending a social worker instead. And since classes are now virtual and require less building costs and less administration, they're reducing property taxes, right?
 
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A Tennessee school district is under fire for asking parents to sign a form agreeing not to eavesdrop on kids' virtual classes over concerns they could overhear confidential information.

After significant pushback, Rutherford County Schools is allowing parents to tune in with permission from the teacher but they can't record the classes.

"It's ridiculous. It's so hypocritical because they've been data mining our children for years, compliments of common core," Laurie Cardoza-Moore, founder of Proclaiming Justice to the Nations, said on "Fox & Friends Weekend" Saturday.

"What are they trying to hide? What is the problem? Why won't they let us sit in?" the homeschool mom of five asked.

"Obviously, because they are teaching our children propaganda that they should not be teaching," she said. "They are trying to socialize our children."

She added: "We have had a major problem in education, not just here in Tennessee, but across the country where they are indoctrinating our children with propaganda."

Cardoza-Moore questioned why the school would encourage parents to snitch on one another and what would happen if a parent violates the waiver.

"Does that mean somebody from the school district is going to knock on my door and pull my kid out of my home, his virtual classroom?" she asked. "Or is it going to be my tax dollars that fund my child's public education, my child won't get to participate in education because of it?"

The school district responded in a statement to Fox News.

"We are aware of the concern that has been raised about this distance-learning letter that was sent to parents," James Evans, communications director for Rutherford County Schools, said.

Evans added: "We have issued new guidance to principles that parents can assist their children during virtual group lessons with permission of the instructor but should refrain from sharing or recordings any information about other students in the classroom."

Cardoza-Moore said this is because teachers are pushing "social justice" instead of reading, writing and math, and they don't want to be held accountable to the parents.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ten...pping-online-lessons
 
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Another way for government to snoop on your home.


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You can easily get started. The name of the teacher should be easy enough to figure out - it was the pervert monitoring the child. Start there and work your way up the shit show.
 
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