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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

O.J. Simpson was found not guilty by a jury, and was later successfully sued for wrongful death. This tactic is nothing new.


There is that difference in the burden of proof between a criminal and civil claim.

The state has to prove you guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to convict you of a crime. That is a pretty high bar. It is, in essence, "I am damned sure he did it."

A civil litigant can prevail, in most cases, by showing only that the defendant is more likely than not to have done the act. 50.1% gets you there. That bar is pretty low. Think, "Yeah, he probably did it, I guess."

You know that, I think. But think about what it means.




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Does anyone think Grosskreutz learned anything from this experience?

I seriously doubt he learned anything other than getting shot sucks.

As for the suit by the estate of the real psycho, well fuck those lawyers, he got what he deserved too.





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Why would his lawyers even take a case this far out in left field?

They're either the same lawyers that represented Rosenbaum, in which they didn't get paid because of the Not Guilty verdict so, they're trying the civil action. Or, this is a new legal team representing the Rosenbaum's estate (can't believe he has one Roll Eyes) , and they think they can get something out of Rittenhouse.


Or both cases are funded by anti gun groups who want to keep Rittenhouse in the news, in fear, and in turn, all gun owners in fear of the civil suits that can destroy them financially for using a gun.

In FL we have stand your ground, and with it, you are immune from the civil attorney attacks, if not we'd be seeing John Morgan's For the Money group going after every gun owner for financial gain.
 
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The lawsuit filed in a federal district court in the Eastern District of Wisconsin claims Rosenbaum suffered a "wrongful death" and, as a consequence, his survivors "have suffered, and continue to suffer, significant emotional distress and harm, including but not limited to the loss of society and companionship with Rosenbaum."[/i]
Hmmm, wonder if that “wrongful” is a typo, or just a really big stretch. From Rosenbaum’s record it would seem like one would benefit, not suffer from being deprived of his companionship. Dude brings to mind the old saying, “Everyone makes the world a better place. Some by their actions while they are here, and some by leaving it.”

Wishing Mr. Rittenhouse quick success in disposing of these suits.
 
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