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And this is why we need our 2A rights. We have them to protect ourselves from this kind of government control.


RICHMOND, Va. (WSET) -- The Virginia National Guard has responded after Governor Ralph Northam said there would be consequences for law enforcement who didn't enforce new gun legislation.
"If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be some consequences but I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it," Northam said.
A representative from Richmond then said the Virginia National Guard might have to get involved.
"And ultimately, I'm not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law," Rep. Donald McEachin said. "That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But that's obviously an option he has."
Rep. McEachin also suggested cutting off state funds to counties that don't comply with new measures.
The Adjutant General of Virginia, Major General Timothy P. Williams, released a statement saying they aren't going to speculate about the use of the Virginia National Guard to enforce gun legislation.
We have received multiple questions regarding proposed legislation for the 2020 General Assembly session and the authority of the Governor of Virginia to employ the Virginia National Guard in a law enforcement role. We understand and respect the passion people feel for the U.S. Constitution and 2nd Amendment rights. We will not speculate about the possible use of the Virginia National Guard. I encourage everyone to be patient while we allow our elected officials to work through the legislative process. We have not received any requests from the Governor, or anyone on his staff, about serving in a law enforcement role related to any proposed legislation. I expect our Soldiers, Airmen and members of the Virginia Defense Force to be professional and respectful in their discussions about this subject. As private citizens, our personnel are free to express their opinions to their elected officials, but they should not engage in any political activity while in a uniformed status. We will provide regular updates when appropriate during the General Assembly session. Please utilize your chain of command to direct any questions or concerns to my office, and we will do our best to address them.
More than 70 municipalities have declared a resolution to make themselves a Second Amendment Sanctuary.
The decision to start declaring localities 'Second Amendment Sanctuaries' comes after Virginia Democrats took control of the General Assembly in the latest election.
Northam said he plans to pass stricter gun laws that include universal background checks.
The resolution is not legally binding but expresses the locality's intent that its public funds not be used to restrict Second Amendment rights.
Northam says there will be no retaliation for becoming one and none of his proposed bills include taking guns away.


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It’ll never happen. That ass has showed his hand and doesn’t even have a pair.




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I notice there is no response from the Virginia National Guard. That makes sense, as the president's authority supercedes the governor's. If the governor asks Virginians to point their weapons at fellow Virginians, I can just imagine the images of Kent State crossing their minds. In other words, ain't gonna happen.

Law enforcement officers, as well as the military (and the National Guard *is* part of the military) swear to uphold the constitution, and are not required to obey orders that contravene it.

The Doomberg bought-and-paid-for idiots don't understand anything other than their vendetta agenda. If they are stupid enough to make a move of such epically-Titanic proportion, they deserve all of the hell that will rain down on them.




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Did I miss something? I read the article and I read ALL the tweets. The AG has not received an order to confiscate weapons. What’s the issue?
 
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I don't think the good Gov Ralphie knows who comprises the Virginia National Guard...

I think the Governor may have a small surprise in store for him.


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What's kinda comical is the national guard members will likely also be in violation of the new unconstitutional laws Northam and his cabal are pushing. As such, I wonder how willing they'd be to oppose other Virginians on this issue.

What is absolute at this point is that the Dem's are not going to be satisfied until they cause the deaths of innocent citizens and LEO's pushing this BS agenda.


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Image the sh1t storm if the Governor of Arizona called for the National Guard to enforce the boarder ?

Just enforcing laws that are on the books...
 
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I guess killing babies isn’t enough for Northam


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Did I miss something? I read the article and I read ALL the tweets. The AG has not received an order to confiscate weapons. What’s the issue?



It is more about intent.


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If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be some consequences but I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it," Northam said.A representative from Richmond then said the Virginia National Guard might have to get involved.


And does this moron actually think this assault on the constitution of the United States is constitutional?

First of all, I doubt this moron calling out the "guard" to enforce laws would pass muster. AIR, short of some type of 'emergency" the guard cannot be used as law enforcement agents.

So, is the gubbermint of Virginia prepared to declare a statewide emergency so he can call out the guard to enforce clearly unconstitutional "law"?

Not to mention that I do not believe many guardsmen would even attempt to enforce such a "law"!

I guess this is what happens when the lazy asses sit at home on voting day instead of going to the polls.

I recall from some time ago a similar situation arose (not firearms related, AIR) that involved local police. To a man they said they would take off their uniforms and go home to protect their homes and families.


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Lest we forget; first, they have to enact those laws. Then the fight begins in the courts. And in the interim, there will be a state election and this time we can't sit at home thinking our rights are secure but vote in representatives who will overturn those laws (if enacted) and oppose any future nutso overreach.
 
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Did I miss something? I read the article and I read ALL the tweets. The AG has not received an order to confiscate weapons. What’s the issue?


The proposed legislation would result in a confiscation order and the dems have a majority in both houses of the legislature and have vowed to pass the legislation that was proposed after the VA Beach shooting. (Although they are floating a 'compromise' to grandfather in weapons already owned if the owner will register them with the state). After that, no 'assault' (read semi auto) rifles and no magazines over 10 rounds.

The AG was inundated with questions on whether the Guard would indeed follow such an order, so they released a statement (see below).

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
I notice there is no response from the Virginia National Guard. That makes sense, as the president's authority supercedes the governor's. If the governor asks Virginians to point their weapons at fellow Virginians, I can just imagine the images of Kent State crossing their minds. In other words, ain't gonna happen.


The Guard Adjutant General has released a statement.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...-enforce-gun-control



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Wouldn't it be poetic justice, that if Gov. Northam were to release the Virginia National Guard dogs of war on the general populace, that the VNG turn right around and "arrest" Northam for violating his oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States? One can daydream......



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Did I miss something? I read the article and I read ALL the tweets. The AG has not received an order to confiscate weapons. What’s the issue?


The proposed legislation would result in a confiscation order and the dems have a majority in both houses of the legislature and have vowed to pass the legislation that was proposed after the VA Beach shooting. (Although they are floating a 'compromise' to grandfather in weapons already owned if the owner will register them with the state). After that, no 'assault' (read semi auto) rifles and no magazines over 10 rounds.

The AG was inundated with questions on whether the Guard would indeed follow such an order, so they released a statement (see below).

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Originally posted by fpuhan:
I notice there is no response from the Virginia National Guard. That makes sense, as the president's authority supercedes the governor's. If the governor asks Virginians to point their weapons at fellow Virginians, I can just imagine the images of Kent State crossing their minds. In other words, ain't gonna happen.


The Guard Adjutant General has released a statement.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...-enforce-gun-control


I read all that. Where does it say the AG is going to confiscate weapons?
 
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I read all that. Where does it say the AG is going to confiscate weapons?


I'm not sure what you are missing.


1. Dems have promised legislation that will result in confiscating weapons.

2. A Dem representative and the Dem governor have stated that the National Guard may have to get involved if local law enforcement refuses to carry out the confiscation.

3. No bills have passed yet and no confiscation order has been issued, yet. This thread and the article are about the Dem THREATS to use the Guard to confiscate weapons when the bills are passed in January.

4. The AG of the Guard has issued a statement based on that speculation and the thousands of inquiries he has received on whether or not he would obey such an order.

Does this help clear it up or am I missing what your question is?



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Yeah, the so-called statement from the commander of the VA Nat'l. Guard was just as good as not making a statement - said nothing.




 
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I read all that. Where does it say the AG is going to confiscate weapons?


I'm not sure what you are missing.


1. Dems have promised legislation that will result in confiscating weapons.

2. A Dem representative and the Dem governor have stated that the National Guard may have to get involved if local law enforcement refuses to carry out the confiscation.

3. No bills have passed yet and no confiscation order has been issued, yet. This thread and the article are about the Dem THREATS to use the Guard to confiscate weapons when the bills are passed in January.

4. The AG of the Guard has issued a statement based on that speculation and the thousands of inquiries he has received on whether or not he would obey such an order.

Does this help clear it up or am I missing what your question is?


I must be missing it too, then. Where in the statement from the AG of the Nat'l. Guard does he say yay or nay to being used in an enforcement role?




 
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I must be missing it too, then. Where in the statement from the AG of the Nat'l. Guard does he say yay or nay to being used in an enforcement role?


He doesn't say either way in the statement he released, nor did I or the OP say that he did. No one that I know of has said that the AG has said he would carry out a confiscation order.

The issue is the threat of the democrats to issue such an order to the National Guard.



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Should these laws be passed, would the democrats who pass the laws be willing to enforce and/or go door to door?

The VA NG is probably composed of a lot of the same LEO who will refuse to violate the Constitution.
 
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Should these laws be passed, would the democrats who pass the laws be willing to enforce and/or go door to door?


That's a rhetorical question, right? We all know better. Ralph & Company are no more likely to be the "foot soldiers" going door to door than was Beto. If it came to that, they'd have their minions doing it for them, and taking the heat firsthand, while they sit in their comfy chairs and spectate.




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