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We also have a 2019 highlander, but it has auto shutoff, which you list above and gets more like 25mpg. However, we are very pleased with it. There are 3 kinds of people, those that understand numbers and those that don't. | |||
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| Life's too short to live by the rules |
I'll take that 5 speed transmission from the 4-Runner any day over the crappy transmission they put in the 3rd Gen Tacoma. I much prefer the way my wife's 4R drives over my Tacoma. We had a 2010 4R and now have a 2018 4R. We were satisfied with the 2010 and still very satisfied with the 2018. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one. I know it's 10 year old design, but I'm worried how they are going to screw it up in the next design. | |||
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Wife loves her Highlander AWD. Great power, you step on gas and it’s a bit of a bullet for its size. | |||
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Sounds like a job for a pickup with a diesel as was mentioned earlier, 4wd, high mpg, comfortable on longer rides. Ford or Dodge 1500 Diesels fit the bill for most things. For any new vehicle you're going to get an ignition cut off built in when you stop, they all have a kill switch for this that you have to manually activate. There are aftermarket companies that can get around it, unless you grab an older vehicle you're getting it standard. All the rest are features of a pickup, and you could pop on a camper shell or cover for more enclosed secure storage... | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
Thanks guys. As I said. The Runner a different animal. I know it is a 15mpg rig and not necessarily heavy on comfort over the open road. I appreciate the old design. I too am in the camp that the current tranny is more than fine over the crap they are producing now. So there is little reason the look elsewhere for what it is. As I said, Longer trips on asphalt. Higher mpg even mid twenties. More comfort in the saddle, etc. The Highlander might be worth a look. The auto shut off at stops is just too much of a stupid feature to get over if not able to disable though. What is the Q7. A diesel would be fine but am not going to buy something that is a new design with bugs needed rung out. Our new to us used Tundra is a hog. I like the power though. The ridgeline is intriguing but the wife is more into the we don't need another pickup camp. Darn it. I would like to stay well under $40k. $35k would be better. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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^ The Q7 is an Audi SUV. So be prepared for German maintenance. No personal experience, so I can't speak to the Q7 reliability. For a short while, they did offer a V12 diesel in Europe, don't think we ever got it here. Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI4AvCECSuE The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| I got a Million of 'em! |
Don’t all cars turn themselves off at stoplights now? I figured it was a gov mandate. I just got my first vehicle like that (Subaru Forester) and I always forget to disable it the first time. That horizontal inline 4 feels like its tearing itself apart every time it starts up from a red light.  I’d be careful with tow ratings from some of the suggestions. Tow ratings are pretty light on a lot of vehicles with CVTs and a lot more vehicles are coming with CVTs. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Thanks, I was thinking the Q was an Audi. I will not be buying a Audi. Any new Passport or Pilot owners. I would be more prone to buy Honda than Ford now (explorer). I do kind of like the looks of the new Explorer though over the Honda's. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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We purchased a Honda Passport Elite last year. It was our easy choice of sub-$40K SUVs. We didn't want a 3 row car and wanted a non-CVT rig. Let me go though your list.
It has the latest safety features like lane keep, object detection, smart cruise control, backup camera. The motor is a 3,5 liter V6 and has lots of power. I just did and oil change that was very easy with both the drain, fill and filter in easy reach. Maybe worth a test drive? Mike I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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I have a 3 year old a Pilot. 40k miles zero problems. EX-L. WITH 6 soeed auto. Mpg cruising 75-80 around 25 mpg. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Thanks guys. I am thinking the two Honda's are going to be worth a look. Along with the Highlander. I liked the former Pilot, but they moved it more from Suv to crossover which I am not wild about. I do need something that has some snow and off road capabilities. Not wildly so. I will also be using it to tow, launch and retrieve a fishing boat. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Great minds think alike! LOL. He beat me to it. With both the idea of a Ridgeline and the comment that crap on the roof kills mileage. As it really does. You are expecting a lot with your list. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
That's what I was thinking. For most of it, I like the Highlander. But... if you need to trail a boat... can't you use your Tundra for that? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I’m on about the 3rd ‘Crew-Cab’ pickup. I have a capper shell over the bed, keeps gear dry, lightly secured. Towing is easy, usually below 3000 lbs now, a 1/2 ton will do. If carrying gas or fuel, one normally wants them out of any passenger compartment, for any distance. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
So having some cargo capabilities in a roof rack would be helpful. Maybe one fuel container and clothes or other cargo but not a big cooler.  Aren't all the honda's cvt including the three mentioned here. Passport, Pilot and Ridgeline. Or do some have a transfer case? Is the highlander cvt as well? I am assuming so on all counts? As I mentioned. Not going to a another pickup. Already covered on that twice over. The Ridgeline is a bit of a different animal so maybe. But probably just buy a Passport or Pilot instead. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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The Pilot, Ridgeline and Passport don’t use a CVT. They have either a 6 or 9 speed automatic. Highlander is not a CVT either (8 speed auto). ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline and Highlander are still traditional automatics. No low speed transfer case like a 4wd.   | |||
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The first response you received pretty well covered it. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Yeah TM, we covered that a few times over already. But thanks for addressing it, Again. So if the Honda's are not cvt and no transfer case with a low range. What do we call them from a mechanical perspective? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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https://www.edmunds.com/car-bu...which-to-choose.html ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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