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November 23, 2019, 11:42 AM
229DAK
What I read was: "Hungarian scientists may have found a fifth force of nature."
The operative word is MAY.
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November 23, 2019, 11:46 AM
DoctorSolo
I read it as "We really think we can justify our next research grant!"
Wasn't the Higgs-Boson supposed to revolutionize our understanding of the universe?
I'm starting to think physicists are just very good salesmen of the unknown and the esoteric.
Real science is very rare these days, nobody will pay for it.
November 23, 2019, 11:47 AM
BBMW
It seems like a number of other teams, at other well known institutions have been trying to disprove it, and have so far failed.
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Originally posted by 229DAK: The operative word is MAY.
If it did, would you know?
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Originally posted by DoctorSolo: I read it as "We really think we can justify our next research grant!"
Wasn't the Higgs-Boson supposed to revolutionize our understanding of the universe?
I'm starting to think physicists are just very good salesmen of the unknown and the esoteric.
Real science is very rare these days, nobody will pay for it.
November 23, 2019, 11:51 AM
bigdeal
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Originally posted by 229DAK: What I read was: "Hungarian scientists may have found a fifth force of nature."
The operative word is MAY.
Exactly. A further elaboration might be..."scientists see something they can't explain, understand, or replicate at this point."
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Originally posted by DoctorSolo: I'm starting to think physicists are just very good salesmen of the unknown and the esoteric.
Lots of arrogance is also part of that equation.
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November 23, 2019, 11:53 AM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
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Originally posted by 229DAK: What I read was: "Hungarian scientists may have found a fifth force of nature."
The operative word is MAY.
Exactly. A further elaboration might be..."scientists see something they can't explain, understand, or replicate at this point."
This article states that they did replicate it, and offered and explanation as well...
Jesse
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November 23, 2019, 12:04 PM
tatortodd
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
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Originally posted by 229DAK: What I read was: "Hungarian scientists may have found a fifth force of nature."
The operative word is MAY.
Exactly. A further elaboration might be..."scientists see something they can't explain, understand, or replicate at this point."
This article states that they did replicate it, and offered and explanation as well...
Agree that they did repeat it (took 3 years) but the explanation could be as simple as not all atoms/isotopes/particles split at the same angle. This and beryllium 8 might just be oddballs or there are more.
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November 23, 2019, 12:12 PM
bigdeal
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
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Originally posted by 229DAK: What I read was: "Hungarian scientists may have found a fifth force of nature."
The operative word is MAY.
Exactly. A further elaboration might be..."scientists see something they can't explain, understand, or replicate at this point."
This article states that they did replicate it, and offered and explanation as well...
"The study's lead scientist, Attila Krasznahorkay, told CNN that this was the second time his team had detected a new particle...". I read that as they witnessed the phenomenon occur more than once but could not force it to occur. And their explanation is a bit weak by any measure. At any rate, they're a loooooooooooooooong way from proving anything.
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November 23, 2019, 12:20 PM
Rightwire
A story published by CNN....
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November 23, 2019, 12:42 PM
gearhounds
I also remember that on more than one occasion, scientists claim to have initiated cold fusion. Unable to duplicate, IIRC.
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November 23, 2019, 12:51 PM
Sig2340
Damnation, I knew I should have written a paper on the fundamental force I first encountered in 1974.
That fundamental force manifests itself when a male reaches reproductive maturity and a voluptuous female enters their orbit of situational awareness.
Nice is overrated
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November 23, 2019, 01:39 PM
lopezp
It's Elsa.
Sorry for the spoiler, scientists, but I saw Frozen 2 last night. She's the 5th Force.
November 23, 2019, 03:11 PM
mbinky
Until Dr. Sheldon Cooper (Ph.D., Sc.D.) weighs in on this it's all just theory.
November 23, 2019, 03:20 PM
GT-40DOC
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Originally posted by Rightwire: A story published by CNN....
BINGO!!!!!
November 23, 2019, 03:30 PM
TigerDore
Old news.
November 23, 2019, 03:31 PM
TRshootem
I discovered the fundamental force 38 years ago today...my wife!
November 24, 2019, 07:13 AM
redstone
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Originally posted by Rightwire: A story published by CNN....
It was reported by CNN. The article links to a Cornell article. I am on my phone so it would be a real pain to track it further.
There is so much about the universe we are just learning to observe, much less explain and understand
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November 24, 2019, 07:19 AM
limblessbiff
What, no Star Wars jokes yet? You guys are slacking
November 24, 2019, 09:47 AM
KenS
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Originally posted by limblessbiff: What, no Star Wars jokes yet? You guys are slacking
They are going to name the new force "The Shwartz"
Ken
November 24, 2019, 11:04 AM
low8option
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Originally posted by KenS:
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Originally posted by limblessbiff: What, no Star Wars jokes yet? You guys are slacking
They are going to name the new force "The Shwartz"
Ken
Believe that was Space Balls not Star Wars.
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