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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
That's true, unfortunately. But it's also true that some brands aren't removed and gain wider distribution. A-B Inbev has bought Golden Road which, so far, is going pretty well. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Back in the 90's when I started homebrewing I drank a lot of Anchor's beers (Steam, Christmas, Porter) for the bottles (it was good beer too) as they were shaped differently from most others but re-capped just the same for homebrew. Anchor Brew. Co. history was featured in at least a few of my brewing/beer books and the beer was easy find here in MI. But, stores can only hold so many brands which is primarily the realm of the distributors. "Cheers" to Fritz Maytag. | |||
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Imagination and focus become reality |
Here in Indiana I used to drink Anchor Steam many years ago then all of a sudden, it disappeared. | |||
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Mistake Not... |
Unless he's taking over for Maverick as Ice's wingman, the Bandit ran with the Snowman. And I would watch Smokey and the Bandit any day and maybe even twice on Sunday's (in fact, I'm pretty sure I have). Sucks about Anchor Steam, but I'm pretty sure here in the PWN we'll weather the loss just fine. ___________________________________________ Life Member NRA & Washington Arms Collectors Mistake not my current state of joshing gentle peevishness for the awesome and terrible majesty of the towering seas of ire that are themselves the milquetoast shallows fringing my vast oceans of wrath. Velocitas Incursio Vis - Gandhi | |||
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Thank for the correction | |||
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definitely a loss. One of the true originators of the resurgence of good beer in the US and bringing wild fermentation to the main stream the Christmas Ale was always amazing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
A-B bought a local brewer called Karbach in Houston. Some of Karbach's brews are still around, but there is a persistent rumor that one of Karbach's old recipes (called "Love Street" which was/is a Kolsch) is now just Budweiser. I don't think it is really true, but I also don't think it is the same beer brewed by old Karbach. It is all free market capitalism, so I'd never suggest they can't do this, but I am not buying any Karbach beer, either. This often isn't a sacrifice because the beer almost always suffers under a corporate overlord. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Anchor Liberty Ale was a favorite but I haven’t seen it in decades. It was like a Ballantine but better if you know what I mean. I miss Ballantine too BTW… Anyone remember Pete’s Wicked Ale? Another early craft beer the went extinct. | |||
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Exactly how I feel. Finding a good English Ale is difficult. Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale is now their only beer on the shelf. No longer can I even find Harp. __________________________________________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit! Sigs Owned - A Bunch | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Yes, that was a good one They were one of the first generation of craft brewers on the scene late 1980’s to late 1990’s era. I think they got too big too fast and tried to buy out a couple other up and coming craft breweries and imploded. | |||
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In Odin we trust |
It has become difficult to find decent non-IPA beers these days. I don't care for IPA's personally, though I did go through a phase a decade or so ago.....Ruination by Stone, Jet Star by No-Li, Dogfish Head 60 & 90 minute IPA's, etc. I always went back, however, to good German beers....Hofbrau, Spaten, dunkels, weissbiers, marzen style, Oktoberfests, etc. And malty deliciousness like a good Scottish ale or various Christmas ales (current fav is the Breckenridge Brewery's Christmas Ale). Point is: I agree with a lot of folks here that good beer is getting harder to find in favor of, well, crap. Flavored alcohol seltzers are uniquely terrible to me, and the various lawnmower macro-brews are (and always have been) crap. Fruit beers don't work for me either. Shiner is still damn good beer, and I still have a couple of good local breweries to patronize. _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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In Odin we trust |
OH! I still like and can get Red Hook ESB locally. It's a tasty beer. _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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Anchor Steam is available here on the East Coast in VA, and sold well, the Christmas beers are usually delicious and sell out quick https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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true, been a few years since I was in the biz, but it used to be the Distributor had a buyer that looked at that, and some management that had the local sales folks push it, sometimes the micro would be with a top notch distributor, sometimes not, we used to have 3 major players here, one was a AB house and sold only AB product, and Heineken, another was the Miller house and sold a lot besides Miller, and the 3rd big (kinda ) player , sold Corona and a shitton of micros, but they struggled with capitol, and had many suppliers demanding payment up front, so if they could afford to restock, they did, sometimes it may be a long while before a resupply of some brands, all 3 were locally owned, and all 3 have been bought out by larger national or larger regional players so that has changed a bit since I left the grocery biz https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Needs an update............... "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
I was a fan, back in college. Couldn't afford a lot of it though. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Red Hook is an AB product they snatched up in the 90's along with Widmer. I was interviewed to be a regional Rep for them, got flown to Seattle the same day Shipman announced a hiring freeze. Was told on arrival I was going to be offered the position, can't now, have a great weekend on us. Week later the sale to AB was announced ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
I also liked Pete's brews. They never had their own brewing facilities. They brewed at Miller facilities - I don't know if Miller did the brewing to their recipes, or if Pete's rented space and time in Miller's breweries. The Wicked Ale was pretty good at a time when there weren't many craft brews out there. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
I never realized they were a contract brewer. Was up in Rochester NY some years back for work and got to go to the Genesee Brewery which has a beer museum and decent pub and was surprised at how many "craft" beers were being brewed at the Genesee facility there. | |||
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Imagination and focus become reality |
Weird stuff going on. Every year for decades I have been purchasing Bass Ale around Father's Day. Last year I couldn't find it. This year I couldn't find it so like last year I bought some Fat Tire Ale. After doing a little research, I find out it is no longer available. Wow! And I found out incidentally that it is/was under the AB umbrella. | |||
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