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One of my favorite beers, while I'm local, others around the country may end up scrambling to get their cases or, end up calling The Bandit & Iceman. https://www.insidehook.com/dai...s-outside-california This message has been edited. Last edited by: corsair, | ||
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My favorite for years. First had it a Giants game in San Francisco about 25 years ago. Later I could find it in Nashville grocery stores for several years but it disappeared. In fact it is hard to find good beer anymore as the shelves are filled with fruit flavored shit. __________________________________________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit! Sigs Owned - A Bunch | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Wow, that's disappointing to hear. I used to buy the Christmas Ales and some years were better than others but the bottle was always a unique riff on an evergreen tree and IIRC are now a collector's item. Anchor Steam was pretty good but the entire country is awash in craft beer and it's no longer as special as it was in the 80's and 90's and really hard to stand out these days. I got to meet (then)founder/owner Fritz Maytag in 1997 when I was a student chef at the CIA and a member of A.L.E.S. the Ale and Lager Educational Society, one of many student groups on campus. Yes, he's the Maytag of the washing machines AND the delicious blue cheese. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
If 70%+ of their sales are in California anyway, I suspect moving to 100% California sales won't be too much of a change for them. (Likely driven by their new corporate overloads deciding that the added cost of national distribution wasn't justified by <30% of their sales.) It must be a pretty regional beer anyway, with the other 30% likely coming primarily from neighboring states on the west coast or out west. I've never heard of Anchor Steam beer. Similar to something like Goose Island, which is all over the place in the northern midwest, available in every gas station, liquor store, and grocery store, but which you never run across down here. Or like Yuengling was on the east coast area, up until a few years ago when they started more national distribution. | |||
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Ditto. Still on my Guinness Draught kick here at the house... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Goose Island is a phony "craft" beer that doesn't even belong in the same category as Anchor beer TBH. I used to see it in NY and PA but now realize it's been a while since I've seen it at distributer or a bar. Anchor is one of the pioneers along with Sam Adams who revived the whole concept of good beer in the late 70's - early 80's and ushered in the "microbrewery" and later "craft brewery" revolution and without them we'd still be drinking crappy industrial swill. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
I wasn't claiming they were comparable beers... I was saying they might be alike in that they could be regional heavyweights and household names in their areas while being fairly unknown outside their respective regions. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Understood. What I think happened is early on, Anchor *was* special and sought after and was distributed pretty widely but as the craft beer revolution exploded and more and more areas got their own special craft brewers, they got pushed out. PA alone has far more craft breweries than even 10 or 20 years ago and they dominate around here. In a way they are a victim of their own success with the beer revolution they helped usher in. | |||
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It's a shame. I visited the brewery in 2004 and it's a lovely old historic place. I get the Christmas ale every year here in Houston. I guess I'll have to look forward to having some Anchor when I have the unfortunate need to travel to CA for business. -------------------------------------------- Floridian by birth, Seminole by the grace of God | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
I'm sure you can get someone to bring some across the state line... . | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
I loved and drank a lot of Anchor Steam in the 80s, I even toured their factory back then. It was a decade when there were no choices in craft beer, and back then the wine industry, Napa Valley, was a ghost town compared to recent years. I haven't had an Anchor Steam in years, it was replaced by other micro beer companies. Even now, I am weary of IPAs and other full bodied beers, my tastes have gone back to lighter lagers and similar. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
The bad old days of the 2000s and early 2010s, with every craft brewery out there trying to "out-hop/out-IBU" each other with their selections of eleventeen ridiculously overhopped IPAs were just awful. I got so tired of showing up at a new craft brewery back then just to find that (like many of the others) they had 6 beers on tap: Hoptimator IPA Hopocalypse Double IPA Hops on Hops on Hops Triple IPA Hopbominable Snowman Quadruple IPA Midnight Pine Quintuple Black IPA Pisswater Boring Lager (for the ladies) But don't write off IPAs altogether. Saying "I don't like IPAs" is kinda like saying "I don't like wine"... There are so many different IPA types and styles out there that you're likely to find at least one that you like, with enough patience. The newer trend towards lighter and smoother IPA styles (New England IPAs/Hazy IPAs/Cosmic IPAs/etc.) is a vast change from the ubiquitous heavy and bitter IPAs of a decade or so back that were so reminiscent of rotten grass clippings and Pine-Sol mop water. | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
I used to drink a fair amount of Anchor Steam beer, but haven't for years. But, I hate to see a smallish brewer (Anchor is small compared to Sapporo or InBev, but was big among craft brewers) get bought and pulled out of the market. The mega brewers buy these small brewers in part to remove them, not only as direct competitors, but to remove them totally from the market. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
You know the real reason why all these craft brewers do so many IPA's, right? 1. they are FAST to produce 2. they are easily "fixed" if something goes wrong and there are off flavors...just throw more hops in! 3. they take a relative low skill to make Lagers on the other hand take much longer to make and are absolutely unforgivable if you screw them up and they take skill to do right. | |||
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A teetotaling beer aficionado |
I haven't had one in quite a while but very much looked forward to their yearly release of their Christmas Ale which they have been doing since 1975. Unique each year, though similar with artfully designed label. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOgIKd9yFv4 Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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I always like it, but haven't been able to find it on the east coast in years. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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The beer industry in America is generally going to hell with the multinationals buying up anything that tastes good (to my palate anyway) and then killing the brand (Bass Ale), changing the recipe (Newcastle), or substituting some named-alike swill for a decent beer (Negra Modelo -> Modelo Especial). Whether they are trying to adapt to changing consumer preferences, or trying to influence them, I don't like it! Just try to find a nice malty English-style ale in a brewpub these days, good luck. Even porters and stouts seem to be getting harder and harder to find, not to mention the higher-end German lagers (e.g. Augustiner-Brau, Hofbrau, Spaten) being replaced on taps, and in stores by a plethora of no-taste "light" beers, nasty-tasting gimmick beers, and fruity alcohol waters. Didn't we shame Zima out of existence back in the day? Now they are foisting dozens of like products on us. The micro breweries appear to be adapting to this trend by mimicking the "major" brands, dropping interesting brews and focusing on over-hopped IPAs or gimmick beers with flavorings from non-traditional sources (coffee, peanut butter, pumpkin, etc.) Maybe they are hoping to get acquired? Sorry guys, unless you have a brand that a major wants to kill, you're probably out of luck in that regard. There are still micros making interesting brews (Alewerks Tavern Ale, Bell's Best Brown), but I am very concerned that they too will succumb to the InBev/Molsen Coors/Heineken world domination through competitor acquisitions conspiracy. | |||
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I just hope it's not in response to ESG bullshit | |||
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I used to like Anchor Steam back when it was still a smaller op. I think they lost something when they increased volumes and stopped drinking it. There are lots of good beers now that are easily available. In my mind, no real loss if Anchor Steam is less available / not available. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Like a party in your pants |
I was introduced to Anchor beer way back when on a business trip to San Fransisco. Back then I did not drink beer because I found all the name brands to be boring. I used to look for it on shelves and see it occasionally at bars, always a treat to find. In a search for a beer that actually had taste I started drinking Guinness. I then discovered Anchor Porter a dark beer with great taste. It was my favorite for years. Sorry to see it leave my region of the country. | |||
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