If You’re Trying To Ban Guns, The Least You Can Do Is Learn The Basics
I like the term "modern assault weapons".
I like to ask people, "How would you feel if you were told you couldn't own modern automobiles... like the 1947 Packard."
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March 08, 2018, 05:02 PM
rusbro
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Originally posted by cas: I like the term "modern assault weapons".
I like to ask people, "How would you feel if you were told you couldn't own modern automobiles... like the 1947 Packard."
Regarding the argument from antis that the founding fathers couldn't have possibly envisioned the existence of an AR or AK, I say that's complete bullshit. I think you could hand one of the founders one of those rifles and they would immediately grasp the improvements over say a musket, and recognize that it's still just a rifle.
However, I think they'd likely be totally aghast if I were to stand them in front of my big-screen TV, shown them hollywood horror, hollywood sex, hollywood violence, and then follow it up some hardcore FPS gaming, followed up with a nice tour of the most explicit, vile and poisonous videos the web has to offer... I think they'd be much more likely to want to repeal/rewrite the 1st Amendment than the 2nd after seeing what we've done with our "freedom of speech." (not that I'm in any way arguing for restrictions on the 1st)
March 08, 2018, 10:23 PM
Tuckerrnr1
Like this gem?
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March 08, 2018, 11:13 PM
Nismo
March 09, 2018, 12:03 AM
LDD
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Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by cas: I like the term "modern assault weapons".
I like to ask people, "How would you feel if you were told you couldn't own modern automobiles... like the 1947 Packard."
Regarding the argument from antis that the founding fathers couldn't have possibly envisioned the existence of an AR or AK, I say that's complete bullshit. I think you could hand one of the founders one of those rifles and they would immediately grasp the improvements over say a musket, and recognize that it's still just a rifle.
However, I think they'd likely be totally aghast if I were to stand them in front of my big-screen TV, shown them hollywood horror, hollywood sex, hollywood violence, and then follow it up some hardcore FPS gaming, followed up with a nice tour of the most explicit, vile and poisonous videos the web has to offer... I think they'd be much more likely to want to repeal/rewrite the 1st Amendment than the 2nd after seeing what we've done with our "freedom of speech." (not that I'm in any way arguing for restrictions on the 1st)
Scalia already disposed of the argument in District of Columbia v. Heller.
If you want to watch an anti's eyes glaze over, apply the same line to *gasp* Twitter or Facebook. The Founding Fathers never envisioned a type of publicly accessible media that could broadcast a message world-wide instantaneously. Does that mean one does not have 1st amendment rights unless using only voice or through ink or movable-type presses?
March 09, 2018, 12:33 AM
lechiffre
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Originally posted by LDD:
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Originally posted by rusbro:
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Originally posted by cas: I like the term "modern assault weapons".
I like to ask people, "How would you feel if you were told you couldn't own modern automobiles... like the 1947 Packard."
Regarding the argument from antis that the founding fathers couldn't have possibly envisioned the existence of an AR or AK, I say that's complete bullshit. I think you could hand one of the founders one of those rifles and they would immediately grasp the improvements over say a musket, and recognize that it's still just a rifle.
However, I think they'd likely be totally aghast if I were to stand them in front of my big-screen TV, shown them hollywood horror, hollywood sex, hollywood violence, and then follow it up some hardcore FPS gaming, followed up with a nice tour of the most explicit, vile and poisonous videos the web has to offer... I think they'd be much more likely to want to repeal/rewrite the 1st Amendment than the 2nd after seeing what we've done with our "freedom of speech." (not that I'm in any way arguing for restrictions on the 1st)
Scalia already disposed of the argument in District of Columbia v. Heller.
If you want to watch an anti's eyes glaze over, apply the same line to *gasp* Twitter or Facebook. The Founding Fathers never envisioned a type of publicly accessible media that could broadcast a message world-wide instantaneously. Does that mean one does not have 1st amendment rights unless using only voice or through ink or movable-type presses?
I don't think these people are fond of the first either.
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March 09, 2018, 11:11 AM
cas
I like to play with them... "So you're saying if Washington and the continental army / militia had AR-15's available to them, they wouldn't have used them against the British?
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March 09, 2018, 11:45 AM
M-11
How about changing the nomenclature to SR-15 for Sporting Rifle? Then the other side can refer to them as "Scary Rifles".
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he'll make you angry enough to want to kick small children
Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.
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March 09, 2018, 12:32 PM
dsiets
Years ago a journalist in the local rag reported on a shooting. He/she apparently talked w/ cops about evidence at the scene because the resulting story proclaimed that two guns were used. A S&W pistol and the other, a full auto! in calibur .32.
It took me a couple seconds to realize the cops must have recovered casings in .40S&w and .32acp. From that point on I've come to believe nothing I read in the news, no matter the subject.
March 09, 2018, 03:09 PM
Out West
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Originally posted by lyman:
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Originally posted by zipriderson: The first thing I ask my liberal in-laws when they start talking about this issue is if they know what 'semi-auto' means. They of course do not, and do not care, but my point is always they should know what they are talking about if they are going to advocate a certain position.
you would be surprised at the number of 'gun people' that do not know what the AR in AR-15 means,
I wish this forum had a"like button" for posts like this.
March 09, 2018, 03:14 PM
rusbro
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Originally posted by dsiets: ...a full auto!... .32acp.
Ah yes, the dreaded Automatic Clip Pistol.
March 09, 2018, 03:15 PM
ArtieS
'course, you all know that "acp" stands for "Automatic Commando Pistol". Right! Right?
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