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The Ice Cream Man
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The prices on food machinery went through the roof, during COVID.

Manifold increase. I got told it was inflation, etc etc…

Working in Central Asia, I’m working with a lot more Chinese suppliers/companies which are doing the work/most of it…

It makes me dang furious. I know a lot of good US manufacturers who work tight and clean and can, more or less, fight it out.

Is there some kind of SBA requirement to buy new machinery? All I can think of is that the model is to charge wildly insane markups, bankrupt the little business, then sell new ones to another start up.
 
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I don’t have a specific answer, but in general manufacturing in the USA often has expenses above that of some/many other countries. It can be as simple as extending paid family leave, EPA regulations, whatever. Yes, obvious I realize.

The ‘safety net’ for citizens in the USA is much higher than just about anywhere.

That was a thing, early COVID, put incentives in place to get critical manufacturing back in the USA, often medicines. Now that COVID is over, on deaf ears.

One has to deal with what’s there, may not be what we’d ideally envision.
 
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Working in manufacturing (medical devices) for the last 20 years I can tell you, in the US, the regulatory burden is massive compared to our facilities in other countries.

Not all regulatory oversight is bad, but we got hit on an audit because our documents refereed to "zip loc" bags when the bags in use were a generic brand of bags. We were required to change the wording in literally thousands of validated documents from the words "zip loc bag" to "resealable plastic bag". It took us over a year.
Because these were validated documents, any changes to them required the workforce had to be trained on the change so EACH updated document, once approved and released, went out into the computer based training system were EACH employee had to review the change and e-sign that they read and understood the change. I don’t even know where to start calculating how much that one issue cost our customers, because you know the customers ended up paying for the cost.

The auditors in China (yes, they exist) never batted an eye at what we called the bags.



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Yes, there are a lot of regulations American manufacturers have to follow, many of which could stand to be streamlined or eliminated altogether. Or we could do like China, where they cram people nut-to-butt in dormitories with nets around the windows on the upper floors to catch the suicide jumpers. Maybe some day we'll find something in between.
 
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Originally posted by SpinZone:
Working in manufacturing (medical devices) for the last 20 years I can tell you, in the US, the regulatory burden is massive compared to our facilities in other countries.

Not all regulatory oversight is bad, but we got hit on an audit because our documents refereed to "zip loc" bags when the bags in use were a generic brand of bags. We were required to change the wording in literally thousands of validated documents from the words "zip loc bag" to "resealable plastic bag". It took us over a year.
Because these were validated documents, any changes to them required the workforce had to be trained on the change so EACH updated document, once approved and released, went out into the computer based training system were EACH employee had to review the change and e-sign that they read and understood the change. I don’t even know where to start calculating how much that one issue cost our customers, because you know the customers ended up paying for the cost.

The auditors in China (yes, they exist) never batted an eye at what we called the bags.

Totally RETARDED, and yet COMPLETELY believable! When I was working as a rep for a manufacturer of Industrial & Commercial Automation Equipment the 'joke' was that for any company implementing SAP, it meant 'Stop All Production', and that the process for ISO Certification was invented by a Paper Company! Wink


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