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I was not aware of this until today, but beginning 12/04/2025, Texans can buy Ivermectin at a pharmacy without a prescription. I know you can buy the equine version without a prescription, but this is a good step. There is also Ivermectin cream for skin issues and it works wonders for my mom, but she has to get a prescription and it can take months for a doctor appointment.

Bill making ivermectin an over-the-counter drug signed by Gov. Greg Abbott

Gov. Greg Abbott on Wednesday signed a bill makes ivermectin — a drug used mostly in this country to treat livestock for parasites — available to Texans without a prescription.

Texas is now the fifth state to approve the over-the-counter sale of the drug after it became popular as an unproven treatment for COVID-19. House Bill 25 filed by state Rep. Joanne Shofner, R-Nacogdoches, first passed the House, 87-47, after an energetic, three-hour debate along party lines. Shofner, surrounded by more than 20 Republicans at one point, argued her bill was championing medical freedom, giving Texans better access to a drug particularly outside cities where pharmacies outnumber physicians.

Shofner’s bill does not put ivermectin on pharmacy shelves, but the drug would be available upon request from behind the pharmacist’s counter as Texans already do for other drugs, like Sudafed. The law takes effect Dec. 4.

“It’s absolutely important for our rural communities — and there’s a lot of people in urban communities that are not able to get to their doctor — that they have more access to their pharmacist than they would their health care practitioner,” she said on Aug. 27 from the House floor. “It’s already behind the pharmacy counter. This is not a new thing.”

State Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, introduced the bill during Senate floor discussion in August, arguing that there’s long been a history of using drugs that are safe and effective for other uses or “off-label” from their original use. “It is available without a prescription in many countries across the world and four states in the United States,” he said.

But Democrats were quick to point to ivermectin’s history in this country as a veterinary drug to treat parasites in livestock. “Let’s be clear. This is a drug that is used on horses, donkeys, correct?” said state Sen. Roland Gutierrez, D-San Antonio. “It is FDA approved for being prescribed by a doctor … for the use of parasites only.”

“It’s been approved as a safe drug. for humans,” Hall said. “It has a better (safety) record than Tylenol.”

Ivermectin has remained relevant since the COVID-era zeitgeist that fueled skepticism of mainstream medicine and the health care system at large. Medical freedom advocates want to remove barriers that prevent them from taking whatever medication they say will make them healthier — especially if it’s an alternative to vaccines — even if its effectiveness is debatable. And, ivermectin is a model for their beliefs.

During a visit to the Texas Capitol in August, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. applauded lawmakers’ attempts to make ivermectin more accessible.

“I think Americans should have the choice,” he said. “After Trump left office, there was this movement to put everybody into this funnel without choice in doing that.”

During the House floor debate, Democrats derided the bill with state Rep. Rafael Anchia, D-Dallas calling the bill “bananas” and “crackpot.” His colleagues also raised questions about the fact there is no age limit in the bill so that children can buy it and that pharmacists are shielded from liability if any consumer suffers an adverse reaction. Shofner’s bill puts the rule-making responsibility on how to dispense on pharmacists and she said she trusts them to come up with adequate procedures.

Shofner filed an identical bill during the regular session but the House didn’t vote on it, despite 58 pages of online testimony filed by residents who want to be able to access it without a prescription. This time around, her bill comes with the support of Abbott who put ivermectin access on his expanded priority list last week after Texans for Vaccine Choice sent 7,000 signatures in support of the drug.

“Like penicillin and aspirin, ivermectin is a safe, affordable medicine with minimal side effects,” Shofner said.

While it has approved the use of ivermectin in humans to treat parasitic worms, the federal Food and Drug Administration has not approved its use in preventing or treating COVID-19.

Through social media during the pandemic, the drug gained popularity before a coronavirus vaccine was available. Doctors can prescribe it but few will do so to treat COVID-19 because of the FDA’s warning against it.

During the House debate, Republicans, including state Reps. Tom Oliverson, a Cypress anesthesiologist and Steve Roth of Conroe, said one of the reason the bill was needed was because too many pharmacists refused to fill ivermectin prescriptions during the pandemic.

But state Rep. Gene Wu, D-Houston, said that was the case because demand was so high during the pandemic that the drug’s supply was diminished, and pharmacies were trying to save it for people who needed it for parasites and other uses approved by the FDA.

State Rep. John Bucy III, D-Austin, a member of the House Public Health Committee who pressed Shofner about safeguards on the bill last week, told The Texas Tribune Tuesday that he believes ivermectin will continue to be misused under the bill.

“You’re taking the doctor out of the equation,” he said. “I do believe in medical freedom for adults but this bill goes beyond that. I want to have better information, labeling and we need to protect children and this bill doesn’t do that.”




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“You’re taking the doctor out of the equation,” he said.


Well, bless your heart. Perhaps if doctors being in the equation weren't such a problem, we wouldn't need bills like this. Freedom. Period.

The irony of wanting "... better information, ..." while pushing a shot w/o testing and information that is actually harmful to people and children. These people can go pound sand.




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“You’re taking the doctor out of the equation,”


I have a crazy belief. Allow everything aside of highly addictive narcotics and strong antibiotics to be OTC drugs. There are plenty of countries where this is the norm, even the antibiotics are allowed, or allowed by a pharmacist.
When we free ourselves of the Big Pharma companies and the doctors that are owned by UHC, we may get interested in true health and wellness for our citizens.

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I thought the federal government (FDA) is the only entity that can decide which med becomes available w/o a prescription. That ivermectin becomes OTC is not my concern, btw.


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Beware there is a lot of fake ivermectin on the market. Regarding Iver, you can buy them at Tractor Supply.


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From Google:

"In South Carolina, you can buy ivermectin tablets over-the-counter (OTC) without a prescription. A state law was enacted that specifically authorizes the over-the-counter sale of ivermectin tablets and hydroxychloroquine tablets, requiring no prescription order or consultation with a healthcare professional.
This legislation overrides the general federal status of oral ivermectin as a prescription-only medication for human use. The law took effect upon the Governor's approval in 2025.
Note that while the law permits OTC sales, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has only approved ivermectin for specific parasitic infections and has not authorized or approved its use for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19. "

"Yes, ivermectin is available over-the-counter in Texas.
In 2021, Texas passed House Bill 25, which allows pharmacists to sell ivermectin without a prescription. This was done in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, during which some people used ivermectin as an unapproved treatment for the virus.
However, it's important to note that ivermectin is primarily used to treat parasitic infections, such as scabies and head lice. It is not an approved treatment for COVID-19.
Before taking ivermectin, it's recommended to consult with a healthcare professional to ensure it is appropriate for you."




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I thought the federal government (FDA) is the only entity that can decide which med becomes available w/o a prescription. That ivermectin becomes OTC is not my concern, btw.


This is what an AI search said:

By federal law in the United States, ivermectin is classified as a prescription-only medication for human use and cannot generally be dispensed without a prescription from a licensed healthcare provider. The FDA has approved ivermectin for specific parasitic infections in humans, but not for prevention or treatment of COVID-19, and federal regulations have not changed to allow over-the-counter (OTC) sales on a nationwide basis.[5][10]

However, some states—including Texas, Tennessee, Arkansas, Idaho, and Louisiana—have passed their own laws allowing pharmacists to dispense ivermectin to adults without a prescription, often under defined protocols, and these laws supersede federal prescription requirements within those states. In these cases, ivermectin may be available as an OTC or “behind-the-counter” product at pharmacies, with various requirements for pharmacist screening and disclosure.[1][2][3][4][8]

Federal law itself, though, still classifies human ivermectin as a prescription drug, and outside of states with special legislation, a prescription remains required. If located in a state that has not enacted such exemptions, a prescription is still necessary for human use.[10][5]

Sources
[1] Four States Pass Laws Allowing OTC Ivermectin ... - Pharmacy Times https://www.pharmacytimes.com/...-pending-legislation
[2] Ivermectin Can Now Be Dispensed in Texas Without Physician ... https://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=66854
[3] Texas lawmakers approve easier access to ivermectin, sparking ... https://www.fox4news.com/news/...er-access-ivermectin
[4] HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE CHAPTER 446. IVERMECTIN https://statutes.capitol.texas...cs/HS/htm/HS.446.htm
[5] Ivermectin and COVID-19 - FDA https://www.fda.gov/consumers/...rmectin-and-covid-19
[6] Pharmacists have the right to refuse to fill ivermectin prescriptions https://www.pharmacist.com/Blo...mectin-prescriptions
[7] Texas lawmakers approve easier access to ivermectin ... - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br_Z3EgPaWU
[8] More states are allowing ivermectin to be sold without a prescription https://www.nbcnews.com/health...es-rfk-jr-rcna205616
[9] Bill making ivermectin an over-the-counter drug signed by Gov. Greg ... https://www.texastribune.org/2...in-otc-prescription/
[10] What the FDA wants doctors to tell patients asking for ivermectin https://www.ama-assn.org/publi...ts-asking-ivermectin




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Beware there is a lot of fake ivermectin on the market. Regarding Iver, you can buy them at Tractor Supply.


That is why I think it will be good to be able to get it at a pharmacy instead of the internet. In the end, it will probably be best to buy from a compound pharmacy depending on the need. Last time I had COVID, I had to search high and far to find a doctor that would prescribe Ivermectin. Then, Walgreens told me I should go find a compound pharmacy for the dosage as they could make a capsule I would only have to take one of and if Walgreens gave me the pills they carry, I would have to take something like 10 of them.




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“You’re taking the doctor out of the equation,”


I have a crazy belief. Allow everything aside of highly addictive narcotics and strong antibiotics to be OTC drugs. There are plenty of countries where this is the norm, even the antibiotics are allowed, or allowed by a pharmacist.
When we free ourselves of the Big Pharma companies and the doctors that are owned by UHC, we may get interested in true health and wellness for our citizens.

Until then, it’s health for profit. (We are not profiting)


100% agree!




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Here is a safe online pharmacy that sells it, but not cheap. They do have pretty good occasional sales though.

https://allfamilypharmacy.com




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I thought the federal government (FDA) is the only entity that can decide which med becomes available w/o a prescription. That ivermectin becomes OTC is not my concern, btw.


Guess it is like Marijuana. Still illegal in the eyes of the Feds but plenty of states saying have at it.

Anything that results in less Federal government control is a good thing.


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“Let’s be clear. This is a drug that is used on horses, donkeys, correct?” said state Sen. Roland Gutierrez, D-San Antonio. “It is FDA approved for being prescribed by a doctor … for the use of parasites only.”


Let's be clear, Water is a fluid that is used on horses, donkeys, correct?
It is FDA approved for being used to treat dehydration, and thirst, only.

People and their controlling agendas are tiresome.




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“You’re taking the doctor out of the equation,” he said. “I do believe in medical freedom for adults but this bill goes beyond that. I want to have better information, labeling and we need to protect children and this bill doesn’t do that.”


But mandating that kids get pumped with the clot shot definitely protected them


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I thought the federal government (FDA) is the only entity that can decide which med becomes available w/o a prescription. That ivermectin becomes OTC is not my concern, btw.


Guess it is like Marijuana. Still illegal in the eyes of the Feds but plenty of states saying have at it.

Anything that results in less Federal government control is a good thing.


Sounds about like it. I asked AI how Texas law can supersede federal law:

Texas law supersedes federal prescription requirements for ivermectin through explicit state legislation that permits pharmacists to dispense the drug to adults without a prescription from a healthcare practitioner. This change was enacted by House Bill 25, which amends Texas state codes to authorize pharmacists to provide ivermectin “without requiring a prescription order from a licensed health care practitioner,” as long as they follow standardized protocols established by the Texas State Board of Pharmacy.[1][2][3]

The law specifically states that, regardless of other laws—including federal regulations—a pharmacist acting in a reasonably prudent manner cannot be subject to criminal, civil, or professional disciplinary action for dispensing ivermectin under these provisions. This “notwithstanding any other law” clause is how Texas asserts its authority, using states’ rights to set its own health and pharmacy regulations for drugs within the state, unless directly overruled by federal enforcement or court action. So, in Texas, as of the law’s effective date, pharmacists may dispense ivermectin without a prescription, under state authority, despite the FDA maintaining that human-use ivermectin is a prescription medication on the federal level.[2][3]

Sources
[1] Bill making ivermectin an over-the-counter drug signed by Gov. Greg ... https://www.texastribune.org/2...in-otc-prescription/
[2] Ivermectin Can Now Be Dispensed in Texas Without Physician ... https://www.texmed.org/Template.aspx?id=66854
[3] 89(2) HB 25 - Committee Report (Substituted) version - Bill Analysis https://capitol.texas.gov/tlod...is/html/HB00025H.htm
[4] Texas bill could make drug Ivermectin available without a ... - KSAT https://www.ksat.com/news/loca...mid-misuse-concerns/
[5] Legislative Corner - Texas Society of Health System Pharmacists https://tshp.org/page/LegCorner
[6] Bill making ivermectin an over-the-counter drug signed by Gov. Greg ... https://www.newsfromthestates....gned-gov-greg-abbott
[7] Four States Pass Laws Allowing OTC Ivermectin ... - Pharmacy Times https://www.pharmacytimes.com/...-pending-legislation
[8] [PDF] ivermectin - United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/o.../22/22-40802-CV0.pdf




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FDA approved in 1987
Many believe that big Pharma knew its benefits were huge and suppressed it since it was so cheap and cured many types of diseases.

I take 24mg twice a day
I buy 2 boxes of 100tabs/box 12mg each.

I purchase it from an FDA offshore facility in India. It is a 50-day supply for my protocol.





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The question is not about whether ivermectin was approved for human use, which everyone except the rats, knew the answer to already. The topic here is making it available w/o prescription.


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The question is not about whether ivermectin was approved for human use, which everyone except the rats, knew the answer to already. The topic here is making it available w/o prescription.


I have no prescription, and it clears US Customs without any issues. I also get 2 boxes (100 tabs) of Fenbedazole 444mg twice a day. My doctor told me of my source. I pay $70 per box. That's 7¢ a tablet.

Also interesting note, Iver was distributed throughout India during COVID vs any jabs. Never reach any significant epidemic levels.


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I also get 2 boxes (100 tabs) of Fenbedazole 444mg twice a day. My doctor told me of my source. I pay $70 per box. That's 7¢ a tablet.


Your math is incorrect. It’s missing a zero.

$70.00/100=$0.70 ,so it’s $0.70 per tablet. Not seven cents.



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