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There is so much wrong here it's hard to quantify. It's flat out insulting. With all of the violence in Mexico, so much so that it significantly effects tourism, they have the gall to even suggest legal action against the US. Violence and crime are at extreme levels in this corrupt country, and they actively and outwardly promote illegal immigration into our country. The drug flows from Mexico kill countless Americans every year. Even El Paso's sister city, Juarez, is a hub of violence and far less safe than El Paso on it's worst day. What a pathetic joke this country is. No doubt that this is a political attempt to undermine Trump. Trump's response should be to build more wall! Focus on your own shithole, Mexico.



The Mexican government on Sunday threatened legal action against the United States for its response to Saturday's mass shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas that left 20 people dead, including six Mexican nationals.

Mexico's Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard made the announcement in a video posted to Twitter, in which he expressed indignation for the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Mall.

"The president of the Republic has instructed me so that this posture and indignation from Mexico is translated, first in protecting affected families, and then in legal actions, efficient and prompt, quick and convincing so that Mexico can demand the conditions to protect to the Mexican-American community and Mexicans in the United States," Ebrard said.

He called Saturday's shooting "an act of barbarism." Ebrard didn't offer specifics but said Mexico would take action to protect its citizens living in the U.S.

"What happened is inadmissible and today, at 4 p.m., we will announce the first judicial actions that the Mexican government will take in accordance to international law," he added.

Among the 20 killed are six Mexican citizens and seven injured. Mexico revised the number of its citizens killed Sunday from three to six.

"Today, unfortunately, the update provided by the FBI... the regrettable part is that they’ve confirmed that 6 Mexicans have lost their lives, and there are 7 injured in El Paso, Texas," Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said.

Ebrard said five of the Mexican citizens killed were: Sara Regalado, Adolfo Cerros Hernandez, Jorge Calvillo Garcia, Elsa Mendoza de la Mora, and Gloria Irma Marquez. The sixth victim has not been identified.

El Paso, home to 680,000 residents, sits across the southern border from Cuidad Juarez in the Mexican state of Chihuahua.

The gunman, Patrick Crusius, 21, of Allen, Texas, was charged with capital murder. Investigators are looking into a manifesto they believe he wrote that could be a "nexus to a hate crime."



https://www.foxnews.com/world/...l-paso-mass-shooting
 
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Pretty rich huh, Mehico lecturing us about violence and shootings. After all, the Mexico cartels are beacons of humanitarianism and good deeds. Its past time to turn off all cash remittances from the US to Mexico. Wanna run your mouths and line up against us, then let it cost you huge.


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Prayers for the dead and injured.

That said, the Mexican government can pound salt.
 
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Who cares what Mexico says



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Who cares what Mexico says




Leftists. Mexico is trying to influence the politics here and I'm sure there won't be a shortage of sympathizers on the left. I'm waiting for AOC to back this action.
 
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I for one do. The statement "You're either an ally or an enemy" should be the approach to dealing with these morons. We have a lot of financial agreements with Mehico, and are putting up with a rash amount of BS associated with the migrant issue the Mehicans are abetting. If they want to directly attack us over this incident or any other, or think they dictate US policy, then there should be yuuuuuuuuuge blowback and consequences (preferably monetary).


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Maybe they should build a wall or something...




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One, standing. What court can Mexico go to except an international tribunal? What court (at all) will not recognize American sovereign immunity?

Two, specifics. Exactly what does Mexico think it can demand the United States can do that will satisfy Mexico that it's citizens are "safe" in the United States?

Three, reciprocity. There have been a series of incidents where U.S. citizens who are residents of South Texas and have absolutely no involvement in criminal activity have been abducted, tortured, forced to pay ransom, passed around as sex slaves and/or murdered without Mexico having lifted a finger to solve the problem.
 
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Time to close the border so all that American "violence" doesn't creep into Mexico..oh, and send them a bill for all the death and destruction caused by the drugs the Mexican government helps flow into this country.
 
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Mexico, complaining about violence in another countryBig Grin that's a good laugh. Sure..
 
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It is sensationally hypocritical. If a similar tragedy took place near Canada and several Canadians were killed, I could see it. Not agree of course, but not be gobsmacked by the ridiculous nature of the complaint from Mexico.
 
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It's rhetoric.

The only possible action by Mexico would be to press for extradition of the shooter for trial, which won't happen.

Otherwise, it's all mental masturbation.
 
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Mexico KNOWS this is BS, but they also know the lib soy-boi millennials will eat this stuff up. They are deflecting the attention away from their crap-hole country towards us.

We aren't the audience for this announcement - the left and the dem primary candidates are. Just watch - they will use this in their smear campaign against President Trump.



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It's rhetoric.

The only possible action by Mexico would be to press for extradition of the shooter for trial, which won't happen.

Otherwise, it's all mental masturbation.


I'm fine with extraditing him, hell I don't even care if they have a trial or not, hang him and be done with It.



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Mexico should close its borders to prevent its citizens from entering the US and getting murdered. Problem solved.


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Here's CNN's version of the same story. This push by Mexico is all political and they're trying to pile on the anti-Trump bandwagon.

The raw truth is that maybe, just maybe, the lawless border situation with it's near free-flow of illegal immigrants might be having a causal effect on people's sentiments in this country. No rational person can have anything but strong condemnation for this shooting, but it is wholly reasonable to acknowledge that the ridiculous border situation has been stirring strong emotions in rational people for a long time, and that it's quite possible that a fringe person(s) might just pop a cork and take matters into his own hands. Add to this issue the hyper politicized and sensationalized rhetoric by the media designed to gin things up and it's even more plausible. But this angle likely won't make into much of the public discourse. If anyone is going to use this event as a political springboard then all aspects need to be taken into account. But of course they won't be.



(CNN)The Mexican government is looking into taking legal action against the United States after six Mexican nationals were killed and seven others were injured in a mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, Secretary of Foreign Affairs Marcelo Ebrard said Sunday.

During a press conference in Mexico City, Ebrard called the shooting an act of terrorism against Mexicans in the US and said the Mexican government will look into whether there is enough evidence to solicit the extradition of the gunman to face charges in Mexico.
US authorities have not publicly identified the shooter, but three sources told CNN the suspect is 21-year-old Patrick Crusius of Allen, Texas. The sources were two federal officials and one state official.
Authorities also are investigating a racist, anti-immigrant document they believe the suspect posted on the online message board 8chan before the shooting. The 2,300-word document, which police called a "manifesto," is filled with white supremacist language and racist hatred aimed at immigrants and Latinos. It blames immigrants and first-generation Americans for taking away jobs.
In a video posted to his official Twitter page, Ebrard said what happened in El Paso was "unacceptable" and that "the first judicial actions" the government will take will be in accordance with international law.

"Mexico would like to express its utmost profound condemnation and rejection of this barbaric act where innocent Mexican men and women were killed," Ebrard said. "We are outraged. We do not support the culture of hate."
Ebrard also said Mexico President Andrés Manuel López Obrador instructed him to take swift legal action in order to first protect the families who were affected and then "so that Mexico can demand that the United States protect the Mexican community in the United States."
López Obrador confirmed earlier Sunday in a televised statement that six Mexican nationals were killed and seven were injured. The shooting at an El Paso shopping center left a total of 20 people dead and 26 injured.
Ebrard urged the US to establish a "strong position against hate crimes" following the shooting. He also drew attention to gun control as a "crucial issue." and announced that Mexico is investigating who is responsible behind the sale of "these assault weapons."



https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04...-shooting/index.html
 
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Perhaps Mexico's State Department should issue a travel warning to the US...


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Keep your people in their own country and there should be no concern with their safety. Why were they here anyway, if it’s so bad here?




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If nothing else, Mexico's priorities might just be a bit.......misdirected. I had to go all the way back to June 19 of this year to find this story about Juarez. And Mexico is highly concerned about the El Paso shooting. Uh-huh.

One other thing to keep in mind as you read this article, Beto O'Rourke went on the record a month or so ago, while standing on the very border that separates El Paso from Juarez, and stated to the media that he thought the border should be open and free flowing in the US in general and El Paso/Juarez specifically. Great thinking Beto - and thanks for watching out for the citizens of this country!



Mexico drug cartel violence flares as Mexicles, Gente Nueva war rattles Valley of Juárez


A war among drug-trafficking groups has intensified in the Valley of Juárez, with dismembered bodies left in ice coolers, shootings and schools temporarily closed.

The fighting in the valley is for control of border drug-smuggling routes in the Mexican farming communities along the Rio Grande east of Juárez.

The violence comes as homicides have topped 700 in Juárez this year, including the death of a 6-year-old girl hit by a stray bullet at a kindergarten this week.

A war in the valley between the Mexicles gang and the Gente Nueva drug-trafficking group is part of a fragmentation of criminal alliances that authorities said has fueled much of the violence in recent years in Juárez.

In an unusual move, the Mexicles last week issued a news release to Juárez news outlets warning the leaders of the rival Gente Nueva to leave the valley.

"It's better (for rivals to leave) and a warning is given to all these people to abandon the Valley of Juárez, if they don't, the lead and bloodshed will continue," the Mexicles stated.

Recent incidents in the valley included:

Shootings that killed three men, including a maquiladora bus driver, on June 11 in the villages of Tres Jacales and Juárez y Reforma in a region across the Rio Grande from the Fabens area.
Dismembered body parts were found in ice chests and thrown on the ground on the morning of June 13 along the Juárez-Porvernir highway, according to the Norte Digital news website.
Schools in the valley were closed and public bus routes stopped running at 7 p.m. last week due to fears of violence, according to the Diario de Juárez newspaper.
Law enforcement seized an arsenal, including two rifles, two handguns, a grenade and eight Molotov cocktails, after a vehicle chase in San Isidro. The gunmen abandoned a pair of vehicles and escaped.
Drug cartel propaganda
It is not uncommon for Mexican drug cartels to engage in public threats and propaganda, such as videos, banners hung from bridges and signs left at murder scenes.

Mexican authorities have not confirmed the authenticity of the Mexicles news release, which was published by some Juárez news outlets, but have said the violence in the valley is linked to drug groups.

The Mexicles stated in Spanish that they issued the message so the "citizenry of Juárez and the Valley of Juárez are not be alarmed by what is happening and what is about to happen."

Etc....



https://www.elpasotimes.com/st...y-juarez/1489874001/
 
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It's rhetoric.

The only possible action by Mexico would be to press for extradition of the shooter for trial, which won't happen.

Otherwise, it's all mental masturbation.


Yeah, they can have him when we are done with him. Since this will be a death sentence case, they can have his dead body after sentence carried out.
 
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