San Jose, California, is getting closer to adopting a first-in-the-nation law to address gun violence by requiring all gun owners to pay a fee and carry liability insurance


https://www.azfamily.com/news/...2b-771affa4d98d.html

Sounds a lot like a poll tax to me

It's not well thought out and will run up against the 2cnd amendment at some point.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/6040080384

once enacted, it'll be taken to courts and it'll be knocked-down, can't tax a right.

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Originally posted by corsair:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/6040080384

once enacted, it'll be taken to courts and it'll be knocked-down, can't tax a right.

What warnings they received when it was first proposed apparently didn't faze them. Nothing like blind stupidity

Pass it, have it stopped in court, one more idea squashed,

As much as it pains some folks, fund the organizations that take these folks on in your state they are counting on nobody challenging or getting one by...

Quite the opposite. The want to push to negate the 2A, and know they have friends in the federal district and circuit courts. This could well survive unless and until it hits the SCOTUS.

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Originally posted by Tn226:

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Originally posted by corsair:
https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...0601935/m/6040080384

once enacted, it'll be taken to courts and it'll be knocked-down, can't tax a right.

What warnings they received when it was first proposed apparently didn't faze them. Nothing like blind stupidity

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Originally posted by Tn226:
San Jose, California...

At least it's not in the United States.

Again how does this affect any criminals?

If you catch a criminal with a gun not registered to him; does he have to pay back taxes?

Always targeting the wrong people...

I wish california would stop punishing the wrong people.

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Again how does this affect any criminals?

Silly wabbit, to some people, all gun owners are criminals,

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Quite the opposite. The want to push to negate the 2A, and know they have friends in the federal district and circuit courts. This could well survive unless and until it hits the SCOTUS.

This is so extreme that I think they will not have ANY friends on this when it goes before a court, just FYI judges HATE to be overruled in public. I doubt that will stop San Jose trying though. And if your analysis is, if fact, correct I really don't think they are going to like how SCOTUS rules.

Until politicians face serious financial or even criminal penalties for doing schit they know violates the Const., expect this to continue.

Schadenfreude

Oh my, how things have changed since the 80's. It seems like only last week that I entered Reed's Sporting Goods on Alum Rock Blvd in San Jose and purchased my first gun ever. a S&W L-Frame.

Now the Reed's building burnt to the ground and they are taxing guns.

The city has always had a bit of an anti-gun element. Anyone recall Chief McNamara and his battles with pro 2A cop LeRoy Pyle? We're talking late 80's here.

I was born and raised in San Jose and my parents still live there along with many many friends. Since this was floated Everyone I know there has been like yeah good luck enforcing it. The city has been told they will be sued and proceeded anyway. If I was still a taxpayer in that city I’d be really pissed. They have huge budget problems. The PD is way under staffed and they will get slapped down and likely forced to pay not only their own legal fees but the legal fees of the 2A group that does the legal slapping.

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Originally posted by radioman:
Oh my, how things have changed since the 80's. It seems like only last week that I entered Reed's Sporting Goods on Alum Rock Blvd in San Jose and purchased my first gun ever. a S&W L-Frame.

Now the Reed's building burnt to the ground and they are taxing guns.

The city has always had a bit of an anti-gun element. Anyone recall Chief McNamara and his battles with pro 2A cop LeRoy Pyle? We're talking late 80's here.

McNamara was a clown. didn’t he want to have the force armed with .22’s ?
My folks went to high school with the Reeds as well as the Sheldon’s who owned the hobby shop on alum rock. My grandparents lived off Alum Rock for 70 years. I bought several guns as well as scouts, fishing, and bike gear at Reeds. Their annual ammo sale was legendary

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Originally posted by ElToro:
I was born and raised in San Jose and my parents still live there along with many many friends. Since this was floated Everyone I know there has been like yeah good luck enforcing it. The city has been told they will be sued and proceeded anyway. If I was still a taxpayer in that city I’d be really pissed. They have huge budget problems. The PD is way under staffed and they will get slapped down and likely forced to pay not only their own legal fees but the legal fees of the 2A group that does the legal slapping.

That's the problem though. Californians have failed to stop the idiocy in their state, and then it leaks out. Meanwhile another generation grows up in that state thinking this is normal. The jerks in kommiefornia are normalizing communism, have been for years, and the weak-boned people who live there are part of the problem. When you don't fight wrongs, regardless of whether they directly affect you or not, regardless if they are unenforceable or not, you effectively endorse and condone them. Evil triumphs because "good" people do nothing. An ineffective something is as good as doing nothing. Slapping lawsuits that fail to prevent the insanity may as well be nothing.

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Originally posted by ElToro:

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Originally posted by radioman:
Oh my, how things have changed since the 80's. It seems like only last week that I entered Reed's Sporting Goods on Alum Rock Blvd in San Jose and purchased my first gun ever. a S&W L-Frame.

Now the Reed's building burnt to the ground and they are taxing guns.

The city has always had a bit of an anti-gun element. Anyone recall Chief McNamara and his battles with pro 2A cop LeRoy Pyle? We're talking late 80's here.

McNamara was a clown. didn’t he want to have the force armed with .22’s ?
My folks went to high school with the Reeds as well as the Sheldon’s who owned the hobby shop on alum rock. My grandparents lived off Alum Rock for 70 years. I bought several guns as well as scouts, fishing, and bike gear at Reeds. Their annual ammo sale was legendary

Not to drift the thread too much, but did you know that Mr Reed of Reed's Sporting Goods is the great grandson of James Reed of the Donner Party?

Well Documented in several places, So it's not just a wives tale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Reed

End of drift... I just had to toss that in ---- I bought my very first gun from the great grandson of a member of the Donner Party.

Timely. Too bad the city hadn't enacted a law requiring all knife owners carry an insurance policy and pay a knife fee. Otherwise, the stabbing victims would have recourse.

Criminal removes himself from the consequences of stabbing three in San Jose

A person suspected of stabbing three people in San Jose early Wednesday morning was killed on Highway 85, police said.

The stabbings took place just after 2 a.m. Wednesday on Tehama Avenue, the San Jose Police Department said via Twitter. The adult victims were hospitalized for non-life-threatening injuries.

Less than three hours later, at about 4:42 a.m., California Highway Patrol officers responded to a report that a person was killed after a motorist struck the individual — shutting down the northbound lane of Highway 85 by the De Anza Boulevard exit. The person was later confirmed by San Jose police to be the stabbing suspect.

The lane was closed at 5:16 a.m., and KRON reported that the lane reopened at about 8 a.m.

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Again how does this affect any criminals?

If you catch a criminal with a gun not registered to him; does he have to pay back taxes?

Always targeting the wrong people...

They even admit that it won’t stop criminals.

If this actually goes through, I imagine it will be immediately blocked in court and overturned when the trial actually comes. It’s a tax on a constitutional right, no different than a poll tax.