Maybe the NFL owners should take a look at the University of Missouri these days to see what can happen when you give in to this race-baiting trash.

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Originally posted by mutedblade:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
All this foolishness about cutting or punishing a player isn't going to happen, at least not to players who are really good. A coach would cut off his arm before cutting such a player. Owners too.

If you are marginal, maybe getting older, you had best act right. If Kaepernick was playing like Joe Montana, he'd be as safe as a lamb.

Tom Brady can get away with it. Johnny Manziel couldn't.

Which shows exactly how much of a money whore all of these owners are. They couldn't care less if convicted murderers and child rapists played the game, so long as it made them an extra dollar or $10 million.

I don't think it is much different than other business owners. If you have a salesman who is running head and shoulders above everyone else, he'll get some slack, given some "protection" on various social non criminal behaviors. The impact might not be as dramatic, far less public usually, but the same idea.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

I don't think it is much different than other business owners. If you have a salesman who is running head and shoulders above everyone else, he'll get some slack, given some "protection" on various social non criminal behaviors. The impact might not be as dramatic, far less public usually, but the same idea.

It is a lot easier to be high-toned when it isn't your money.

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by mutedblade:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:
All this foolishness about cutting or punishing a player isn't going to happen, at least not to players who are really good. A coach would cut off his arm before cutting such a player. Owners too.

If you are marginal, maybe getting older, you had best act right. If Kaepernick was playing like Joe Montana, he'd be as safe as a lamb.

Tom Brady can get away with it. Johnny Manziel couldn't.

Which shows exactly how much of a money whore all of these owners are. They couldn't care less if convicted murderers and child rapists played the game, so long as it made them an extra dollar or $10 million.

I don't think it is much different than other business owners. If you have a salesman who is running head and shoulders above everyone else, he'll get some slack, given some "protection" on various social non criminal behaviors. The impact might not be as dramatic, far less public usually, but the same idea.

Agreed. I work around guys who have been convicted of various crimes all the time. I'm more concerned with how they preform when they are working than what they have done in the past or do in their off hours. It's business.

I love football but I will not be lectured by million dollar morons who have never attended or passed an american history class. Fuck em!

These fools seem to think that the world can't get along without pro football. I have bad news for them.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
I think pro football is boring. It is the slowest game in the world. In a three hour telecast, there is about 35 or 45 minutes of action. The rest consists of morons talking.

Americans have become inured to that. Even me, and I don't engage much in the pastime of watching others play sports.

It was the funniest damn thing... A few years ago a pro football game was on. Sound was muted. I have no idea why the football game was on, as neither my wife nor I watch others playing sports. (Except the winter Olympics, some.) All-of-a-sudden my wife asks "Do they actually ever play the game?"

Or we'll have been waiting for some show that was delayed by sports running overtime , there'll be five minutes left on the clock. "Only five minutes," she'll say. "Nah, more like another twenty minutes to a half hour, if we're lucky," I reply.

I'd feel bad for the fans that are actually at the game, except they're doing it to themselves--and paying a small fortune to do so, to boot!

Don't get it. Never did. Never will.

I'm not a big NFL fan, but like most things (actors, musicians, companies like Apple), I've figured out I have to separate their political and social leanings from the movie/music/products they're representing. Do I like that so many companies support left-leaning agendas? No. But, I still buy some of their products (like Apple).

I know others can't/won't separate it, and I respect that too.

One of these days the powers to be are going to figure out eroding you fan base ain't a good idea.

Maybe you guys are projecting. Sure, you hate people protesting the National Anthem, and it will alienate you.

But maybe there is a large block of fans who doesn't care.

And maybe there are some fans who think that protesting is the bee's knees.

Which of the three groups is biggest? Maybe you have that calculation wrong.

Or maybe the owners have concluded that those who are alienated by that stuff will howl, but still watch the games, which is all they really care about.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

But maybe there is a large block of fans who doesn't care.

I'm the only person that I know of who cared enough not to watch any games last season. Every football fan on my ship or in my family or friends at home still watched every game every weekend despite being strong American loving conservatives. They all just simply couldn't live without their football every Sunday.

So yeah.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
Maybe you guys are projecting. Sure, you hate people protesting the National Anthem, and it will alienate you.

But maybe there is a large block of fans who doesn't care.

And maybe there are some fans who think that protesting is the bee's knees.

Which of the three groups is biggest? Maybe you have that calculation wrong.

Or maybe the owners have concluded that those who are alienated by that stuff will howl, but still watch the games, which is all they really care about.

Yeah, you guys listen to jhe. He's gonna make sure you guys are straightened out and that you aren't suffering from any delusions, such as thinking that something positive might come out of this mess.

The line forms right here. Go ahead, jhe. Start crushin' them dreams, baby.

after 36 hits by 300 pound guys at 10 mph,
i would not know stuff either, see you in assisted living

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after 36 hits by 300 pound guys at 10 mph,
i would not know stuff either, see you in assisted living

Working backward from the NFL, which all the college players want to get in; and high school football, all of whom want college scholarships: the ruin of the NFL could raise the IQ of athletic students--I'm especially thinking African-Americans here--by 50 points.

Not only that: college athletics, but especially football, corrupts all the colleges that compete seriously. There is no way a player can be serious in today's college football and be a good student. Y'all can correct me if I'm wrong on this, I'm definitely not a college football fan. I thought this way when I was in college, and I haven't changed my opinion on it.

Colleges and universities should focus on teaching academics (I will omit for the moment my disgust at what they actually teach); intramural athletics would be great for developing character IF there were no serious money involved.

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after 36 hits by 300 pound guys at 10 mph,
i would not know stuff either, see you in assisted living

They know that going in to the job. Lots of glory, money, women, and a short life span.

football...yeah

not really a fan although I do root for the Raiders

its a 3 hour game...thats a long time

it would be interesting to find out exactly how long the ball is in actual motion...the rest of the time is standing around scratching yer nuts and trash talking the defense

a quickie search says the average time is right around 11 minutes...

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they're playing a game of chicken here, and risk losing HALF of their fan base!

I don't see how that adds up to 1/2? This is over 99 percent of their fan base who disagree and will walk in my view. Of course the the other .01% of NFL fans also support craziness, the BLM movement and the Profa. It's gonna get interesting.

What are these idiots thinking? Are helmets optional nowadays?
I haven't followed the NFL since the day they allowed the vile thug Mick Vick back into the league.

The anthem can be played before the athletes take the field. Cutting players and blackballing folks isn't even necessary. This will not end well only because the league is not moving forcefully to control the situation.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by jhe888:

But maybe there is a large block of fans who doesn't care.

I'm the only person that I know of who cared enough not to watch any games last season. Every football fan on my ship or in my family or friends at home still watched every game every weekend despite being strong American loving conservatives. They all just simply couldn't live without their football every Sunday.

So yeah.

I haven't watched one second of NFL, or ESPN, since preseason last year.

Been a NFL fan for a long time. Besides some college football, it was the only sport I watched on TV.

NFL game quality has been deteriorating for several years, and last season's fiasco was the straw that broke this camel's back.
Not just the actions of Kaepernick by itself, but the subsequent actions of management - team and NFL.

Players repeatedly smoking weed, beating up wives/girlfriends, assaults. None of that matters (if you're a good enough player).

I'm sick of the double standard.