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Socialized health care in UK. Not working out so great
October 12, 2018, 08:27 AM
Pipe SmokerSocialized health care in UK. Not working out so great
“The NHS waiting list in England is the longest it has been in 11 years, official figures have revealed today.
A staggering 4,154,559 people – around six per cent of the entire UK population – were waiting to start hospital treatment at the end of August.
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An ageing population and shortages of doctors and nurses have been blamed for increasing strain on the NHS and it taking longer to treat patients…”
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Serious about crackers. October 12, 2018, 09:37 AM
Sig2340Color me shocked.
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October 12, 2018, 09:45 AM
Elk HunterNo surprise to me. That "medical care" fiasco has not worked in a very long time. Like the one in Canada, where the people needing prompt medical care for serious issues come to the states. Or did back when I had family members needing medical care for serious problems. They went to Canada to get their meds. Met a lot of Canadians coming to the states to get competent medical care here.
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October 12, 2018, 09:46 AM
CromThe most "cost effective" National Healthcare strategy is alway to just not treat people at all, and have them die early.
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October 12, 2018, 09:49 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by Crom:
The most "cost effective" National Healthcare strategy is alway to just not treat people at all, and have them die early.
A Dutch acquaintance of mine actually defended his smoking by pointing out that smokers tend to die earlier.
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ZSMICHAELSocialized health care in the UK should have been able to work out the kinks by now. It started shortly after World War Two. One interesting fact is that all prescription drugs are FREE for everyone over age 65. Of course the government approves the drugs it will pay for. For example the drugs to treat Alzheimer's are not included since research indicates they do not produce long term results. In other words, in five years time the group that received these drugs still end up in Nursing homes. No difference from the group that does not receive any drugs. I do not see that sort of thing going over here in the States.
October 12, 2018, 10:19 AM
chellim1We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—
The pursuit of Happiness ≠ Happiness.
Progressive socialist communists think health care is a "right"...
But rights DO NOT impose obligations on others to provide them.
Socialism fails when they run out of other people to provide their so-called "rights".
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-rduckwor October 12, 2018, 11:40 AM
VeeperIt's probably because it hasn't been properly tried yet.
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TigerDoreIt was broken decades ago and it is the reason there's a two-tier healthcare system in the UK. Socialism- where everyone's equal, but some are more equal than others.
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October 12, 2018, 01:15 PM
FredwardI recommend a tax increase.
October 12, 2018, 01:37 PM
ARMT Guyquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
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An ageing population and shortages of doctors and nurses have been blamed for increasing strain on the NHS and it taking longer to treat patients…”
Add to that, an influx of immigrants too, perhaps?
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October 12, 2018, 11:27 PM
RipleyYou gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.
Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. October 13, 2018, 11:23 AM
jbcummingsCanada is no better. I had a co-worker up there who was waiting for thyroid surgery to remove a cancerous node. She’d been put off 6 months before they finally did the surgery. It was “day surgery” at that. As soon as she was able to stand and walk, she was dismissed from the hospital. And that was 18 years ago. No telling what it’s like now.
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October 13, 2018, 11:30 AM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by jbcummings:
Canada is no better. I had a co-worker up there who was waiting for thyroid surgery to remove a cancerous node. She’d been put off 6 months before they finally did the surgery. It was “day surgery” at that. As soon as she was able to stand and walk, she was dismissed from the hospital. And that was 18 years ago. No telling what it’s like now.
A six month wait for cancer surgery? That can be deadly. Maybe that is what the government wants?
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