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I'm encouraged actually. As a retired police officer I watched in horror after retiring when these same fools appeared in Salt lake City and attacked cops and began rioting. This continued for a while before ultimately our Governor made some moves and order was restored.

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I have a similar opinion. I recall the 1960s quite well. There was a lot of violence and conflict. I thought this country would never stay together. The division due to the Vietnam war, MLK assissination and RFK shortly thereafter. The riots in Watts and Chicago. Kent State and Richard Nixon. Watergate came later.

In my little corner of the world things are quiet, mostly racial harmony and tolerance. Any protests have been free of violence. A lot of the trouble in Portand is due to outside influence. Mississippi citizens are not found of outsiders and those that would come to make trouble.

One of the primary differences between what's happening now and what was happening in this nation in the latter half of the 1960s and the early 1970s is that back then, there was still common ground among the various factions.

Because of the attitudes and desires of the leftists and the anarchists of the present day, there is no common ground whatsoever. There cannot be, because unlike the freedom movement back then, these America-hating radicals of today want to destroy this nation entirely and they want to eradicate anyone who disagrees with their insanity. This is the way they want it.

Just as Lincoln said, a house divided against itself cannot stand, and he was right when he said that the America of his time had to become all one thing, or all another. That's where we're at now. If you wish to compare our present circumstances to a period of America's past, don't look to the 1960s; look to the 1860s.

I get it now Kimber.. thanks... I was out of line.

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Originally posted by Slippery Pete:
I don't accept as a given, "police target black men and kill them."

I forget where I heard it recently, but there’s a fantastic logic litmus test that this assertion does not pass, and it’s this: If the police are targeting and killing black people, then they really suck at it, because at the rate they’re going, they’re never going to even make a dent. Perfectly illustrates the utter absurdity of the original assertion.

This site has a bunch of links to Live Streaming feeds.

If your on Facebook there are some good live video every night.

All are presented by those supporting the “Protest” so don’t comment conservative views or they will block you.

It shows you who is currently Live Streaming.

Woke dot Net

My guess is Ferguson, MO will be active tonight.
Looks like they are already getting started.

These are three Live Streamers that get in the action and do a decent job showing what is happening in Portland. You can search their names on Facebook to find their Live Feed which typically starts at 10PM PST.

Kevin David Williams
Carrisa Dez
Nott DeAndre

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
It's likely also fallacy that the states would all retain their current form. They may take new boundary lines that are more politically based, so they could fracture / split up from their current form.

Long live Greater Idaho!

http://www.ktvb.com/video/news...98-9888-3a81dc5228b6

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Originally posted by parabellum:
One of the primary differences between what's happening now and what was happening in this nation in the latter half of the 1960s and the early 1970s is that back then, there was still common ground among the various factions.

Because of the attitudes and desires of the leftists and the anarchists of the present day, there is no common ground whatsoever.

Very true.
The crowds have been much smaller in Portland the last several days due to threads of violence, which is why Riot Ribs shutdown.

There is a big conflict between the “Press” Live Streamers and Antifa.
The “Press” typically lean more BLM than Antifa.
Several are getting pretty upset that it is no longer focused on Black Lives Matter.
Then we have NFAC which is in a class by themselves.
NFAC wants Texas for reparations.

Feeling very lucky to be born, raised, and still living a stone's throw from the town in the attached link.
This was a month ago, but bodes well now.

Idaho stands up, antifa stands down

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
It's likely also fallacy that the states would all retain their current form. They may take new boundary lines that are more politically based, so they could fracture / split up from their current form.

Long live Greater Idaho!

http://www.ktvb.com/video/news...98-9888-3a81dc5228b6

Give it a few more years and Boise will be as liberal as Portland. I'm happy right where I'm at.

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Originally posted by apprentice:
Feeling very lucky to be born, raised, and still living a stone's throw from the town in the attached link.
This was a month ago, but bodes well now.

Idaho stands up, antifa stands down

Thanks apprentice. Looking at that article, if I was a BLM'er, or with antifa, I would stay away from Coeur D'Alene.

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Originally posted by parabellum:. . . If you wish to compare our present circumstances to a period of America's past, don't look to the 1960s; look to the 1860s.

As much as I wish it was otherwise, I think you may well be correct here, this nation is likely headed in that direction, only a matter of time.

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:

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Originally posted by parabellum:. . . If you wish to compare our present circumstances to a period of America's past, don't look to the 1960s; look to the 1860s.

As much as I wish it was otherwise, I think you may well be correct here, this nation is likely headed in that direction, only a matter of time.

The people creating the mayhem are but a fraction. I'd be more worried about the broader support from the left and the implicit condoning of the actions by the left. We are not facing a shooting war, but instead an ideological/information war. Not many actual shots will be fired in this war, more likely it involves you being fired from your job, or being cancelled.

I almost rather face a shooting war vs what we have seen/ will see. It's too easy to force people into compliance to keep their job. If faced with immediate survival we know which side would win. I'm guilty of not saying 'enough is enough' and taking the easy way out for my income, vs the long approach for what's right. It's embarrassing to admit, but in most cases I'd shut my mouth to save my job over do what I know is right.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
We are not facing a shooting war...

Yeah, that's what Americans were saying in the 1840s. They were wrong.

It's not "if", but "when"

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
We are not facing a shooting war...

Yeah, that's what Americans were saying in the 1840s. They were wrong.

It's not "if", but "when"

I think there will be ebbs and flows in the turmoils. But on the whole, I think we are very likely headed in that direction.

Has there ever been a bloodless return to liberty once lost?

I don't believe there has ever been a modern society that voted in socialism across a country that was subsequently able to vote it out, on the same wide scale.

Easy to vote for but it required fighting and loss of life to undo. If that's incorrect I'd certainly appreciate the clarification.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
It's not "if", but "when"

'When' is already happening. People have been shot, stabbed, and beaten already. And for those thinking the cops are just going to jump right in to aid the radicals at the direction of these garbage politicians, consider cops are going to be the most targeted group in the country. I would imagine that will motivate them to try and sit the sidelines as much as possible on this one.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
'When' is already happening.

That's not true and I think you know this.

Whatever we do, better not let the commies control both the Presidency and Congress at the same time like they did back in 2009-2010. Because, if it were to happen again, this time, learning from their past mistake, they will be rushing to stack the deck so deep in their favor that would effectively be the end of the USA as we now know it. Elections will no longer have any real meaning. As Rush put it, it will be like bogus elections in Russia, where the dictator always wins. And, if that happened, nothing short of a bloody revolution will refresh the tree of liberty again.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
'When' is already happening.

That's not true and I think you know this.

I'm confused by your response. From the black Trump supporter in Milwaukee who was shot and killed, to the reporter on the ground in Portland who was stabbed on video, to the guy wielding an AK on a motorist who was shot and killed by said motorist, to the guy wielding a CC handgun and firing on the motorist who shot and killed the guy with the AK, plus several other shooting at motorists incidents over the past couple weeks, there is violence occurring all around the country in the name of this movement. It's not wholesale shooting or stabbing 'yet', but it certainly is an escalation.