It occurs to me that while the personal implications may have remained the same (or may not have), if they hadn’t panicked, at least they wouldn’t be an internet sensation.

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Honestly who cares? That many million views on someone’s private business? People need to get a life. Shit like this, people getting caught in the act of cheating, happens every day. If it’s not your people you personally know, meh.

Exactly, why is it anyone's business other than their spouses, and all the views, people getting their rocks off on other people's sorrow, mistakes, or bad choices is just as bad as the cheating.

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It occurs to me that while the personal implications may have remained the same (or may not have), if they hadn’t panicked, at least they wouldn’t be an internet sensation.

Yeah, they definitely should have steered into that skid.
Makes you think about how many smarter cheaters have avoided this fate altogether.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Honestly who cares? That many million views on someone’s private business? People need to get a life. Shit like this, people getting caught in the act of cheating, happens every day. If it’s not your people you personally know, meh.

Exactly, why is it anyone's business other than their spouses, and all the views, people getting their rocks off on other people's sorrow, mistakes, or bad choices is just as bad as the cheating.

Hard pass. They made it everyone’s business when they went out into public and started hanging on each other. These two folks deserve this. You want to keep your private business private? Then do so. It’s not that hard.
These two just wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
A straightforward conversation with their spouses, letting them know that they were moving on instead of potentially giving them STDs and embarrassing them publicly.. that’s the correct way to proceed. And divorces happen every day. A much more respectful way to go about things. Not this shit they pulled. And the public is letting them know. The very public they put themselves on display for.

Again, I cannot imagine the fallout for all the HR departments and the amount of disrespect that will be shown based on this foolish behavior.

Chris Martin's "Either they're having an affair or they're just very shy" is what really threw gas on the fire.

Per Instapundit: best take yet:
This just proves what we always knew—-you can’t trust HR.

(Proving irreverent’s point above.)

So Byron is out but Cabot is still in (as of today), according to Astronomer's website.

A quote from Astronomer stated: "As stated previously, Astronomer is committed to the values and culture that have guided us since our founding," the company wrote in a statement Saturday to Fox News. "Our leaders are expected to set the standard in both conduct and accountability, and recently, that standard was not met." Link

Cabot, as a senior executive and leader at Astronomer, didn't meet the standard, either. When will she resign? Or will Astronomer's internal investigation do that. Astronomer's policy on employee canoodling, especially senior executives, might be an interesting read.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Honestly who cares? That many million views on someone’s private business? People need to get a life. Shit like this, people getting caught in the act of cheating, happens every day. If it’s not your people you personally know, meh.

Exactly, why is it anyone's business other than their spouses, and all the views, people getting their rocks off on other people's sorrow, mistakes, or bad choices is just as bad as the cheating.

Really? How many shows are there, how many YouTube channels that are solely based on this type of thing? Outing cheaters, testing loyalty of partners. It is prevalent and in the headlines since it is popular with the masses and people are using it for clicks.

Anyone who wants to be private yet goes out into the public doing private things mean while hoping nobody will see is delusional. BTW, he is the one that stated it was something private so he should have kept it that way. He had money just no sense.

(adulterous)"Workplace Romance" has no good place in the workplace.*

It is often disruptive, creates "unofficial" chain(s) of command, encourages negative lines and subject of communication, damages moral, focus and healthy relationships.

The higher up the organization the "players", the worse the effects.

So, while people should and do have the right to freedom and privacy in their "love life", an organization has no duty to permit it to occur in situations of "adultery".

These two brought this upon themselves, in public, and if the public picks up stones, I'm going back in the bar. I don't want to be drunk "in pub-lic!"



*People, who are in non-adulterous relationship, who have the discipline to "Keep it out of the office", are not the issue, nor should a company "make it a problem". It is when is "becomes a thing" or "open" in the organization, that crosses the line and becomes company business.
(and it should be a clear and well defined policy, not at the whim of of any person)

While not disagreeing with our simian friend, a point made a few nights ago on Gutfeld! (my main source of deep political philosophical wisdom) was: it's time we ended the taboo on office romance. It can, often is, perhaps mostly is, innocent and natural.

The whole "MeToo" witch hunt--designed to get Trump--ended up as a disaster for normal human relationships.

Adultery is a different issue.

I haven't really been paying attention to this. This is one of those things where I care as much as I do about celebrity breakups. But generally agree with sigmonkey.

I think in general office romances are allowed, especially if they are publicly disclosed (w/in the office - not trying to keep secret). There are office 'romances' that don't belong in the office, especially public business (ie public stock). One type are those that involve people in the direct chain of management. CEO and senior VP, for example. Or manager and his chain. In general, anywhere there may be conflicts of interest that corrupt or interfere with merit assessments. This may not only affect parties w/in the company but may be bad for business and not in the best interests of shareholders. Business decisions may be made based on feelings and not on merit.

Any relationship that could corrupt merit / data based decisions or decisions that would not have been made but for the relationship or decisions that are in conflict with corporate / shareholder interests doesn't belong.

In my career, I've not seen much of a taboo on above-board office romance that complies with workplace policies. At my last company, I worked with at least five married couples who met at work. Where the line is usually drawn is situations where there is a supervisor/employee relationship. You can't date (or typically even be related to) someone who reports directly through your chain of command at most public companies.

I started a new job a few months ago and actually read most of what I was signing and it strictly forbade any co worker romantic relationships. But they are based in Alabama so mag be a regional thing.

This woman is likely still negotiating her exit payment. Could be more complicated with her since she was technically an underling. She could get some pay to go away and be quiet. He reportedly had a lot more assets. Even if he has to give 1/2 to his wife he will be fine. She likely doesn’t have the asset level he has

Gonna be real chore dining a comparable job when you get googled and first 1000 pages with your name results are Coldplay jumbotron homewrecker.

Locally, I’ve heard that if you’re going to cheat on your spouse, you have to cross at least two rivers to reduce the risk of getting caught. That’s a long way (200+ miles) to travel in these parts. Of course, if you’re stupid enough to get on the Jumbotron with your bum trinket at a public event, the river crossing tip is unreliable.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Honestly who cares? That many million views on someone’s private business? People need to get a life. Shit like this, people getting caught in the act of cheating, happens every day. If it’s not your people you personally know, meh.

Exactly, why is it anyone's business other than their spouses, and all the views, people getting their rocks off on other people's sorrow, mistakes, or bad choices is just as bad as the cheating.

Because this is the world we live in. People are more interested in others lives than their own. This has to be absolute misery for the spouses, children, etc. The internet festerment must be taking huge tolls on them. I try to remember judge not lest ye be judged. Did they really mess up, sure they did. Does the crime justify all this nonsense? No. A lot of wrecked lives beyond these two. Nobody is thinking about them when they do this shit.

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It is often disruptive, creates "unofficial" chain(s) of command, encourages negative lines and subject of communication, damages moral, focus and healthy relationships.

The higher up the organization the "players", the worse the effects.

This is true. I once supervised a married accountant in an relationship with my married boss. I had no control over her work.

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Gonna be real chore dining a comparable job when you get googled and first 1000 pages with your name results are Coldplay jumbotron homewrecker.

It would seem the real chore is finding another job if your degree/resume is as "Chief People Officer."

I have a business degree but never heard of Chief People Officer. Is that a woke form of HR?

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never heard of Chief People Officer.

I worked at a company where we had a CEO.
Chief Experience Officer. Completely separate from the Chief Executive Officer.

I would suggest that the Astronomer board will be negotiating a payout of the female HR lead.

In companies that I was part of, Legal would be terrified of a lawsuit from the junior employee in such a relationship as they could claim they were sexually harassed or pressured into the relationship by their boss (the CEO in this case). That was always the biggest reason such a relationship was taboo in companies where I worked (the morality of them both being married would have been only a minor issue - the big concern would be the aforementioned legal exposure).

I'm betting she gets 7 figures to walk away and save Astronomer the embarrassment of her continued employment.