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Originally posted by architect:
Does the RV version work while the vehicle is in motion? At highway speeds?

Website says no to the first question making the second moot.

As a follow up to my previous post. I checked the support site and they have recently added information that answers most of my questions.

fixed IP - no, but being considered as an available option for the "Business" plan
route customer netblock - no
RV in motion - no
IPv6 - they are working on it. A /48 may be available for Business plan customers at some point.
tunnels - not prohibited
IP's behind their router - one, but customers can install their own router with no guarantee of functionality.

All IPs assigned to premises equipment are NAT'd by SL before being routed to the Internet proper. This means any customer application must support "double NAT"

Enough limitations that it makes its usefulness for my purposes questionable. I will probably remain on the wait list to at least try it for home use, but I certainly cannot recommend it to my commercial customers as a viable option for their Internet connectivity.

Your ability to use StarLink will depend upon your "view" of the sky in the direction necessary, which will depend upon your location.

The best friend for whom I just installed a comprehensive WiFi network for his remote, north woods cabin and pole barns, would have had to go on the wait list. Plus, his buildings being in a low spot, relative to surrounding terrain, and the dense tree coverage, might have made it questionable.

Instead we installed a high-end LTE-Advanced/5G modem with an AT&T unlimited data SIM card. I think he said it's $55/mo.? He's getting a consistent 35Mb/s down, 4.5Mb/s up, or better.

Some users have reported that there are times when there is no satellites overhead. Have you had that issue?

I have been on the waitlist for a long long time. starting to lose hope.

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Originally posted by architect:
As a follow up to my previous post. I checked the support site and they have recently added information that answers most of my questions.

fixed IP - no, but being considered as an available option for the "Business" plan
route customer netblock - no
RV in motion - no
IPv6 - they are working on it. A /48 may be available for Business plan customers at some point.
tunnels - not prohibited
IP's behind their router - one, but customers can install their own router with no guarantee of functionality.

All IPs assigned to premises equipment are NAT'd by SL before being routed to the Internet proper. This means any customer application must support "double NAT"

Enough limitations that it makes its usefulness for my purposes questionable. I will probably remain on the wait list to at least try it for home use, but I certainly cannot recommend it to my commercial customers as a viable option for their Internet connectivity.

Starlink is interesting as ATT has fiber literally across the street and every time I call them - they are clueless.
Considered Comcast Business but resisting as excessive equipment rental.
I require static IP's for my business.
So Starlink at some point may be viable however the IP thing is a barrier I can't overlook.

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Originally posted by smschulz:
Considered Comcast Business but resisting as excessive equipment rental.
I require static IP's for my business.

Yeah, unfortunately, their modem is a requirement if you want static IPs. I suspect that's due to the way they provision static IPs.

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I require static IP's for my business.

I thought there was some work-around using DigitalOcean or similar. But then again that's another monthly cost.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
What are the technical differences between the Residential and RV?
We’ve been on the wait list for quite some time.

Their website says if you use the RV setup in a waitlisted area you can expect crappy service. I paraphrased it.

I’m in a waitlisted area using RV dish with zero downtime. No issues at all.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:
What are the technical differences between the Residential and RV?
We’ve been on the wait list for quite some time.

Their website says if you use the RV setup in a waitlisted area you can expect crappy service. I paraphrased it.

Well, that does not mean it would not be an improvement over current service.

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Originally posted by radioman:

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I require static IP's for my business.

I thought there was some work-around using DigitalOcean or similar. But then again that's another monthly cost.

Sure, you can use Dynamic DNS but it is less reliable, less configurable and less secure.
Not going to go that route.

I didn't know about Double NAT.

That would be an issue for me.

We were on the wait list for almost a year. When Comcast is up and running I can get 340mps down and 4mps up. I connected Starlink and saw 140mps down and 20up in the morning and it will go as slow as 14mps during prime time. Comcast only costs me $70.00 per month but they go down all the time and their support stinks. Starlink while slow at times is alway up. The slowness has been a disappointment but always being connected makes up for it. Upload speed is always faster with Starlink. If Comcast was 100% reliable I would stick with them but they go down so much especially in the last month it has become an annoyance. Before Starlink we used Verizon but our signal is weak. I tried a booster last year and no luck. Support staff told me I was in a weird zone with very little cell signal. My luck as this weird zone must affect Comcast too. We will keep Starlink and pay additional for the portability option, not the RV option. Starlink has disappointed a lot of people but others like my brother, a farmer, consider it a godsend.

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Originally posted by smschulz:

Starlink is interesting as ATT has fiber literally across the street and every time I call them - they are clueless.

I currently have both FIOS (home) and Cox (business) uplinks. Neither of them know anything about IP networking at least through three levels of escalation. I was hoping that SL might provide greater bandwidth and customer service at a cost lower than what I'm paying now.

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I require static IP's for my business.
So Starlink at some point may be viable however the IP thing is a barrier I can't overlook.

I have an AWS VM that serves as the remote end of a IPv4 tunnel and port forwards back inside my network (with appropriate ACLs of course). Hardly perfect, but better than nothing. Cloudflare might be a better option these days due to their widely dispersed POPs, and geo-based routing announcements. Similarly, I have an 6in4 tunnel to Hurricane Electric, and they announce my :48 and :64 allocations at no cost.

I live in am area where the only option available to me is very slow DSL. I signed up and have been on Starlinks waitlist for well over a year. I was told at the time that it would be available in the fall of 2021. I have no idea when it might actually be available here.

Wait list for me as well. Somehow my spot on the Starlink wait list was 'cancelled' so I had to resubmit.

Xfinity may or may not run anything nearby in 2023.

AT&T isn't going to do a damn thing.

Someday...

Just some basic points for those looking for some of the basics. I had my brother apply the day they announced it and when it became available in his area he got his opportunity to purchase. It was about a year wait even on day one as it wasn’t yet available in his area. Last I saw 2024 was being quoted for new orders but they were also ramping up production. The service has worked well for them and he usually gets between 75-120 Mbps. Unfortunately it’s not stable enough for his kids to play fast online shooters, but they have not had any issues streaming Netflix, Hulu,etc. I could see zoom type online meetings possibly seeing some issues because of its constant streaming nature without the buffering movie services usually apply. Either way they’ve been happy with the service.

Something important to note was people started trying to apply multiple times or using another email to register at the same address in an effort try to jump the line against the instructions of “apply only once” and starlink said publicly that those people’s quoted dates were being reset as if they were brand new applications. Just a heads up. Also your application is for acceptance to their service which is limited, as well as the opportunity to purchase the equipment.

The RV version is the same equipment as the residential. They recognized the new surge over the last few years of people living full time in their RV’s and converted vans and traveling full time. So the service is basically the same but the residential version is bound to the address registered at signup, and the service is full time for that account. If you disconnect (or unsubscribe) or “pause” your service, your spot in their program may be given to someone else. The equipment you bought is yours, but attempting to restart service may put you back in a line. The new rv option allows service to be turned off and on at will and they acknowledge they may throttle your speeds based on the load of the network in your area at certain times. So it’s up to each person to decide whether $110/month, no throttling, only usable at the address registered to the account and constant service (as well as sitting in the waitlisted queue to get in) vs $135/month with “possible” throttling sometimes but the ability to start/stop service at will and take your equipment to use elsewhere and it being immediately available.

As some mentioned, no it can’t be used while driving. It’s still a satellite pointing into space and even a branch and leaves at a campground impeding its view of the sky can affect its service. Someone mentioned reading service would be crappier in waitlisted area. If an entire area is waitlisted I assume it’s because service is not fully offered there officially because of satellite coverage. So while you “could” throw up the satellite it may or may not connect reliably. I would bet they were talking about throttling which they described as slowing the service in heavily populated areas when the network is busy. Certain cell phone data packages as well as regular ISPs do the same. I do agree they described it weirdly on their info page.

Also that $500-$600 spent on the equipment purchases it. So should you decide to move on from Starlink the equipment is transferable. You just need to call them first to set up the transfer then you can sell it to the buyer.