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A very long, detailed article on what appears to have been a successful hardware hack of server motherboards used around the world; how it was discovered; and the potential threat.

I never did understand the concept of making the largest communist nation on earth powerful. I think Nixon might have screwed up.

So the Chicoms did what the US did with the NSA. Espionage against friend and foe alike is the 2nd oldest profession. Often the oldest and second oldest professions are practiced in unison. You'd be shocked on all the spying the WW I and WW II allies did against each other.

Shocker...

This is why Huawei is no longer selling RAN equipment here in the US

should be another reason to bring back all of the offshore and contract manufacturing that have any hint of ties to the Chinese and return it to the US

The true costs of our 'cheap' parts and labor.

There was a thread here in the last few days addressing malware from a router standpoint. The advice in there was solid but didn't account for this at all. I think this is much more prevalent than is currently understood...

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
I never did understand the concept of making the largest communist nation on earth powerful.

agree 100%

they are not - and will never be - our allies as long as they are a communist nation

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So should we now immediately ban imports of all Chinese electronics and anything with Chinese electronic components?

Maybe this is why Amazon lists made in PRC crap at the top of searches and I can never find branded products.

Yes, we should ban PRC electronics - anything w/ comms. This isn't about business. This is about preparing for war.

"Two of Elemental’s biggest early clients were the Mormon church, which used the technology to beam sermons to congregations around the world, and the adult film industry, which did not."

Droll, very droll.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
So should we now immediately ban imports of all Chinese electronics and anything with Chinese electronic components?

As a start, yes. Then every other product they send our way.

I'll be much happier to shop when I know there's ZERO chance of accidentally buying some of their SHIT.

My iphone keeps whispering "Crooked Hillary...Crooked Hillary...Crooked Hillary..."

Now I know why I felt compelled to vote for Trump, and I feel duped!

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Originally posted by BBMW:
So should we now immediately ban imports of all Chinese electronics and anything with Chinese electronic components?

Sounds great to me, but if we do this, I suspect there will be almost nothing electronic available for sale or use in the US for a very long time to come.

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Originally posted by markand:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
So should we now immediately ban imports of all Chinese electronics and anything with Chinese electronic components?

Sounds great to me, but if we do this, I suspect there will be almost nothing electronic available for sale or use in the US for a very long time to come.

Go back in time and review the reason perpetrated to the american public as to the reason of the Nixon trip to China. One of the many comments at the time was " it is a huge market". Can you say naive? This so called hack is decades old news, yeah it may be only being made public now but it is not a new event. And if you want to remove ALL "China Products" from the shelves etc. We will truly be a third world nation. Check the source of today's clothing, food, toys, tools etc. the list is volumes. And finally WHO is doing business with China? I know it is not me, I have never traveled there but many local, state, federal politicians have, as have many business people and their corporations.
We as a nation share in this debacle.

are there any phones currently designed and made America?

Upon reflection, I didn't go far enough in my earlier post. If we stop importing Chinese products, not only will we have no electronics, we'll soon have no cars, appliances, and no tools to assemble and service cars and appliances. Certain foods will disappear from store shelves and our clothing choices will drastically diminish while prices for what few things are available will skyrocket. We'll have wood, but few tools to work it and few fasteners to hold it together. Not happy about that state of affairs at all, but I think we're going to have to figure out how to make it work. Not bugging everything they sell us would be a good start.

Can't tell me the engineers at Apple didn't spot this on their board.

Read the 2013 Tom Clancy book "Threat Vector."

Very prophetic.

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Originally posted by markand:
Upon reflection, I didn't go far enough in my earlier post. If we stop importing Chinese products, not only will we have no electronics, we'll soon have no cars, appliances, and no tools to assemble and service cars and appliances. Certain foods will disappear from store shelves and our clothing choices will drastically diminish while prices for what few things are available will skyrocket. We'll have wood, but few tools to work it and few fasteners to hold it together. Not happy about that state of affairs at all, but I think we're going to have to figure out how to make it work. Not bugging everything they sell us would be a good start.

Think of all of the jobs we'd create here if we started doing all of this for ourselves again. If memory serves, prior to the 70s we were doing just fine without China's assistance in building/making everything we own.