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Propane burns pretty clean, doesn't it?


They normally do, until they don't.
Problem is the human body can not detect CO.

Ventless heaters will normally put off 2-3 ppm of CO.
9 ppm is the max level for 24 hrs in a living space.

When they get dirty, they can put out high levels of CO.

Only way to know is too check it with a digital CO meter.




 
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Plenty of people have killed themselves with carbon monoxide... at least until the last year or so then they just died from chinese cooties...

sorry I digress.... ventless gas units are just plane stupid in my professional opinion... I have yet to meet someone who has actually read the operating instructions... ventless gas logs are the worse... they all require you have a window or door open when using...

as for the OPs oil filled heater... these are radiant heaters... radiant heat is the by far the best way to heat a space... anything with a fan is inefficient especially the looser the room.


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Happened this morning,so timely thread for sure.


Bronx apartment building fire that killed 19 people - including nine children - likely was caused by SPACE HEATER being used to keep bedroom warm:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...t-building-fire.html


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as for the OPs oil filled heater... these are radiant heaters... radiant heat is the by far the best way to heat a space... anything with a fan is inefficient especially the looser the room.


Well that's where I disagree.

All other things being equal, 1500 watts of "radiant heat" should heat the room the same as 1500 watts of "something with a fan," or if you prefer 1500W = (heating element power + fan power), which was covered earlier.

Should be the same efficiency for both types, if and only if the power is 1500 W for each.


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This thread made me curious enough to pull out my multimeter. I have a small Sunbeam heater about 8" cube and it draws about 8 amps on low and 12 amps on high.

If we use it, it's almost always on a 20A circuit in the bathroom, kitchen, or garage.


wondering, does the label on the heater say how much it draws? does that number match to what you measured?


No labels on the heater. 12.5 amps would be about 1500 watts so I would think everything is functioning correctly. Inrush was about 14 to 15 amps.
 
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as for the OPs oil filled heater... these are radiant heaters... radiant heat is the by far the best way to heat a space... anything with a fan is inefficient especially the looser the room.


Well that's where I disagree.

All other things being equal, 1500 watts of "radiant heat" should heat the room the same as 1500 watts of "something with a fan," or if you prefer 1500W = (heating element power + fan power), which was covered earlier.

Should be the same efficiency for both types, if and only if the power is 1500 W for each.


While watts is watts...

Don't confuse comfort with efficiency. Radiant is comfort, forced air is drafty.




 
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Sadly this is the result of a space heater.

Space heater blamed for apartment fire kling 19.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2.../nyregion/bronx-fire


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Sadly this is the result of a space heater.

Space heater blamed for apartment fire kling 19.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2.../nyregion/bronx-fire


It was probably 19 illegals in one apartment with 6 space heaters plugged into one outlet with 12 cords, like Clark Griswold...



 
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It was probably 19 illegals in one apartment .........



Well, this was an informative and highly educational thread. We were talking Thermodynamics and Newtonian Physics, and now it's down to this.


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Sadly this is the result of a space heater.

Space heater blamed for apartment fire kling 19.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2.../nyregion/bronx-fire


It was probably 19 illegals in one apartment with 6 space heaters plugged into one outlet with 12 cords, like Clark Griswold...



May have been, but that is the way some people tend to use them, regardless of their immigration status.




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Sadly this is the result of a space heater.

That's like saying some-or-another tragedy where a gun was involved was "the result of a gun."

Quality, non-defective space heaters, used cautiously, are fine, IMO.

I have a small, 500W Amazon Basics cube that sits under my desk to take the chill off the keyboard drawer.

I have a larger space heater, with a built-in thermostat and wattage controls, that's used to take the chill out of the man cave. (Don't recall how high that one goes.)

I had one of those oil-filled radiator types I used to use in an upstairs room where I used to live. I think that one went to 1500W, but I never let it run at that setting unattended.

Never had any problems with any of them. But I use(d) them sensibly.



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