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Need a heater for a 12 by 15 room. Anyone have a suggestion.
 
Posts: 4472 | Registered: November 30, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have this oil-filled radiator:
 https://smile.amazon.com/DeLon...ps%2C168&sr=8-8&th=1 


Takes a while to come up to temperature, but then, when you turn it off, it holds the heat for a good long while. Like all things on Amazon, some love it and some hate it. Mine doesn't leak or make funny noises.
 
Posts: 1283 | Location: MA | Registered: December 24, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I've got an earlier version of the above heater and it does work well, as noted takes a few minutes to heat up. Like 30. Mine occasionally makes some gurgling noises while heating. Once you figure out the settings it will hold a temp pretty well in all but extreme conditions.

Thinking back, we bought this in the early 2000s to heat a finished out basement area that would stay a little chilly. Used pretty regularly by kids every day each winter for ~7-8 years. After, moved it to a cabin where we use it a couple weeks per year. Last use was Thanksgiving weekend this year and it was still rocking. That ain't a bad useful life!

Of course, that also means my review is of a unit likely constructed differently than now too...... It's similar to this one: Linky.

Still 1500 watts or so, so the same risk as space heaters if your wiring is suspect.



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Posts: 12890 | Location: Madison, MS | Registered: December 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have a small office that I don't heat except with a portable heater. I have an inexpensive Lasko heater from Sam's Club that does the job for me. You set the temp you want and let it do it's thing.
 
Posts: 6772 | Location: Az | Registered: May 27, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My wife uses a Lasko for the master bedroom.

It seems to do the trick for her since she's always cold.
https://www.lasko.com/products...amic-heater-cc23630/
 
Posts: 7461 | Location: CA | Registered: April 08, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I hate these threads. Please don't use space heaters, they are dangerous Google "space heater fire".

Your electrical circuitry is rated for 1,800w they use 1,500w. So by using one you are stressing your electrical system by running it at 80% of it's rating. This rating is determined in laboratory conditions under best case install. This means to get to 100% you just need to add (5) 60w light bulbs on the circuit. This also assumes that the unit draws what it's labeled to draw. I've seen 1,500w heaters draw over 2,400w before.

If you want to use a space heater please get a 20a (2,400w) circuit installed dedicated for the space heater. It doesn't really matter which unit you buy, they all put out the exact same amount of heat. 1,500w = 5,115 BTU minus whatever electricity is used for fans or electronics.



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Posts: 21342 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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An oil filled radiator type heater is safe. It doesn't generate enough heat to cause a fire, and most have a tip over/shut off feature. I've been using one in the garage for about 15 years. When I want heat "blowing" on me as I reload, I put a portable fan behind it.
 
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^^ wrong.

Yes they have integrated tipover and thermal overload protection now. That doesn't change a single thing about what I posted above. It is a completely wrong statement to say they are safe. I've made hundreds of repairs to houses damaged by them and rewired houses burnt down by them. I used to call winter space heater season at work because of all the business they generated from melted outlets.



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Posts: 21342 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Fredward:
An oil filled radiator type heater is safe. It doesn't generate enough heat to cause a fire, and most have a tip over/shut off feature. I've been using one in the garage for about 15 years. When I want heat "blowing" on me as I reload, I put a portable fan behind it.


So very wrong! I had my tenants burn down a property in 2013 using that exact type of heater. You run it at 1500w, and it will most certainly get hot enough to ignite combustibles. If it were only left in the 600w or perhaps 900w setting, it may not, but at 1500w, it will.

My tenants, BTW, pushed the heater in direct contact with a wicker basket full of laundry. It ignited the wicker basket, then the clothes, then the Christmas presents, then the house.



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I amped a new oil filled heater and a new milkhouse type heater. Both rated at 1500W, and have lower settings. Both are right at 12A. Right where they are supposed to be. I will run them only at the lower settings.



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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I hate these threads. Please don't use space heaters, they are dangerous Google "space heater fire".

Your electrical circuitry is rated for 1,800w they use 1,500w. So by using one you are stressing your electrical system by running it at 80% of it's rating. This rating is determined in laboratory conditions under best case install. This means to get to 100% you just need to add (5) 60w light bulbs on the circuit. This also assumes that the unit draws what it's labeled to draw. I've seen 1,500w heaters draw over 2,400w before.

If you want to use a space heater please get a 20a (2,400w) circuit installed dedicated for the space heater. It doesn't really matter which unit you buy, they all put out the exact same amount of heat. 1,500w = 5,115 BTU minus whatever electricity is used for fans or electronics.


Yeah, I just bring the Hibachi inside, set it on some bricks. . . No electrical draw at all!




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Posts: 53414 | Location: Texas | Registered: February 10, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Because of Skins' advocacy on these space heater threads, I keep my one and only electric space heater down on the low setting and vehemently disallow the purchase of any more space heaters.

Now, because of this thread, I'm going to get my amp meter and make sure the draw at low is where it's supposed to be.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
I prefer the open fire on the kitchen floor. Heats up faster than opening the oven door.
 
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Yeah, I just bring the Hibachi inside, set it on some bricks . . .


You're doing it wrong. First pour a tall glass of your favorite wine and put on some relaxing jazz. Way more relaxing that way.



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Posts: 21342 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Patton heaters are great. Walmart carries them at 20 bucks new. Stand on hard surface away from flammables and fire it up. You can get them on line as well.
 
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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Because of Skins' advocacy on these space heater threads, I keep my one and only electric space heater down on the low setting and vehemently disallow the purchase of any more space heaters.

Now, because of this thread, I'm going to get my amp meter and make sure the draw at low is where it's supposed to be.


A low setting of 900w (typical, but they all vary) is reasonable. It also will depend on other loads on the circuit. If you want to be extra safe, amp clamp at the breaker with everything thing on, on the circuit you would normally have on, maybe even an extra light or other draw too. Make sure you never exceed 80% of circuit capacity. 1,500w for 15a circuit, 1,900w on 20a circuit.

These threads or customer conversations make me think of habitual drink drivers. "I've been doing it for 20 years and no one has ever gotten hurt."

PS above percentages is using 125/250v distribution, if you are at 120v or lower, the amp draw for space heaters actually exceeds 80%.

PPS I always recommend dedicated circuits for these things at 20a or installing baseboard or in wall forced fan heater as a best practice.



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Posts: 21342 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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20 pound propane tank with a heater on top.
Get home from work, fire it up downstairs, turn on the ceiling fan
above the front door. 30 minutes, nice and warm. Of course the kids
weren't home from school yet, the dog loved it.
Yeah, I know I'll get flamed. I figure it uses about one pound per hour.
Been doing it for 25 years.
 
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I hate these threads.


There are almost as fun as water heater threads...

quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
It doesn't really matter which unit you buy, they all put out the exact same amount of heat. 1,500w = 5,115 BTU minus whatever electricity is used for fans or electronics.


Just where do you suppose the heat is going from the electricity to run the fan?

Current is heat no matter what is pulling it.




 
Posts: 10062 | Registered: October 15, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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20 pound propane tank with a heater on top.
Get home from work, fire it up downstairs, turn on the ceiling fan
above the front door. 30 minutes, nice and warm. Of course the kids
weren't home from school yet, the dog loved it.
Yeah, I know I'll get flamed. I figure it uses about one pound per hour.
Been doing it for 25 years.


Cool, we go from an electrical fire hazard to a possible carbon monoxide poisoning situation.




 
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Originally posted by Fredward:
An oil filled radiator type heater is safe. It doesn't generate enough heat to cause a fire, and most have a tip over/shut off feature. I've been using one in the garage for about 15 years. When I want heat "blowing" on me as I reload, I put a portable fan behind it.


So very wrong! I had my tenants burn down a property in 2013 using that exact type of heater. You run it at 1500w, and it will most certainly get hot enough to ignite combustibles. If it were only left in the 600w or perhaps 900w setting, it may not, but at 1500w, it will.

My tenants, BTW, pushed the heater in direct contact with a wicker basket full of laundry. It ignited the wicker basket, then the clothes, then the Christmas presents, then the house.


Huh? What kind of oil filled heater is that?

I have one that barely gets above “pretty warm” to the touch even at cranked setting. I can’t see how that would combust anything.


 
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