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Originally posted by parabellum:

Have you ever been so drunk that you would pull this kind of stunt?

In my youth I drank a small lake of booze and never got that drunk.

He is looking at the gun on and off the entire time. It's in his mind early on.

Not an LEO but damn security procedures look sloppy.

No issues with the end result; play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

We stored our guns before the interview room at the PD, but a Dwi took place elsewhere( in a room adjoining the magistrate) and was run by the sheriffs office. There was no way to store a firearm.

Guns were locked up before entering the jail...in the same building as the DWI test room but further into the building and further away from the magistrate.

Looks like the guy wanted a suicide by cop.

I’ve had someone grab my gun, and it’s a shit show all around. There is no way to fight someone with one hand on your gun or both hands on your gun to keep it in the holster and away from the bad guy who wants to get your gun to kill you with it.

Just 20 minutes of paperwork? I had a Miami Dade police officer tell me that he has to do about 4 hours of paperwork for a DUI.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
Wow. When I got my DUI many years ago, the police uncuffed me, sat me in the front lobby, asked if they could bring me a drink from the vending machine, said they had about 20 min. of paperwork and would then drive me home. Then they left me unattended and uncuffed for that whole time.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

Have you ever been so drunk that you would pull this kind of stunt?

In my youth I drank a small lake of booze and never got that drunk.

I quit drinking once in my younger years. Worst two hours of my life.

I could have alcohol intravenously piped into my veins, and I would not be drunk 'enough' to ever reach for a cops gun.

H&K-Guy

He chose.... poorly...

This one didn't turn out OK:
Mobile, AL
"The weapon used to fatally stab Mobile Police Officer Steven Green in the neck and back on Feb. 3 was a small 3-inch knife that authorities believe was hidden on robbery suspect Lawrence Wallace Jr.'s body when he was arrested for trying to hold up a dollar store."

Close examination of the video shows that the bullet struck him at the point where the mandible joins to the skull, and, as I suspected, the bullet exited the other side of his head. The cabinet shows a dent after the shot which was not there before the shot. It's very fortunate that in that small room, the bullet struck the cabinet somewhat squarely and not at a severe glancing angle, and that the surface it struck was wood or pressboard, and not, say, a metal filing cabinet. Let's say that the projectile exited the guy at, perhaps 400 or 500 fps. It would have lost even more velocity on the subsequent ricochet but it could have still injured one of the officers, especially had it struck one of them in the face.

To wit:

The bullet ricocheted off the metal wall of the elevator, then struck the man.


Never carry a Glock or any striker-fired pistol without a holster which covers the trigger guard. The guy in this video learned this the hard way. He survived this ND and was lucky to do so.

It looks to me like they were holding him in some kind of office or admin area. Where I worked, there were no guns where prisoner were handled. Even our breath testing area was secure.

Well, no doubt they will be making some procedural changes, if they have not already done so.

Darwinism at it's best. Feel bad for the officers, bet it was danm loud.

What I don't understand is what does this fool think is going to happen. He is handcuffed with many armed officers around him in a locked facility. Was he going to grab the gun, make them surrender so he could leave? Seriously, what did he think was going to happen when he grabbed the gun?????? Just glad the taxpayers won't have to waste any money on this one.

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Originally posted by cruiser68:

What I don't understand is what does this fool think is going to happen.

Well, he was shitfaced for starters. As for the rest, he clearly has bad instincts.

Whenever our officers enter the jail all weapons are secured outside the door of the jail. No knives, batons, firearms at all. Locked in a car or in a lockbox.

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Originally posted by cruiser68:
Was he going to grab the gun, make them surrender so he could leave? Seriously, what did he think was going to happen when he grabbed the gun??????

With his hands BEHIND HIS BACK?!??!??!??

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
Whenever our officers enter the jail all weapons are secured outside the door of the jail. No knives, batons, firearms at all. Locked in a car or in a lockbox.

News article says this was West Valley City Hall, not jail. That's apparently where their breathalyzer is located.

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Originally posted by Ironmike57:
Just 20 minutes of paperwork? I had a Miami Dade police officer tell me that he has to do about 4 hours of paperwork for a DUI.

4 hours is about correct for a DUI in Florida. When the officer said 20 minutes for paperwork, that was for the breath test part of a DUI. The officer likely had many more hours of paperwork at the jail. It looks like they were at a police station and about to do a breath test since all of them were armed. If they were at a jail none of them would be armed.

I have seen many fights with prisoners in the DUI room over the years. NO DAMN WEAPONS IN THERE. TAKE THEIR SHOES.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:

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Originally posted by Ironmike57:
Just 20 minutes of paperwork? I had a Miami Dade police officer tell me that he has to do about 4 hours of paperwork for a DUI.

4 hours is about correct for a DUI in Florida. When the officer said 20 minutes for paperwork, that was for the breath test part of a DUI. The officer likely had many more hours of paperwork at the jail. It looks like they were at a police station and about to do a breath test since all of them were armed. If they were at a jail none of them would be armed.

In my case, I refused a breathalyzer. They wrote me a ticket for that, one for DUI and the speeding ticket that justified the stop. In court they were combined to one refusal with a slap on the wrist, after the arresting officers wrote a DA a note that I had behaved with them. Again, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.

It was a gigantic CF, but thank the Lord for Body Cams

I know many are leo in this thread. I did not watch the vid. No need. Surely the guy was an idiot. Most of us have been shitfaced as was mentioned. I am not excusing his actions. But anyone in that condition in police custody at the station should not end up dead with a bullet to the head. Regardless of the situation. It is a horrible outcome for everyone. And yes I understand he was attempting to get a gun. But as many of you have said. No way that situation should of arose and concluded like that.