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I do carry a grudge . I also believe in Karma . And if I can help it find you then so be it. Leave me alone and we'll be just fine . Fuck with me and I'll devote a lot of time to making you miserable . I don't recommend that for anyone else but it's just the way I am and I'm good with it .
 
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I think Para nailed it. There are nuances in play here.

All of my life I have been a man who believes in "what goes around comes around". You help me with something...I will always be there to help you. For example, one of my nieces, in her mid thirties, got married a while back to a nice guy who is an independent contractor. In other words, he does odd jobs for folks.

He came by the house a while back and told me he got a concrete job at some lake home and asked if I would drive down to a supply store way south of Springfield. He only had a day or two to get the job done and couldn't do the drive himself. He also asked if he could borrow some of my shovels and my large wheelbarrow. These tools were all like new. At the time I was working on replacing the gutters on my barn and he said when he was done he would come over and help me with the job. Heck, I said that would be great so I did the four hour drive to pick up his materials and took them to his job site.

Long story short, he ignored his promise to help me and returned my tools two weeks later still caked with concrete and now rusted. I guess he was tired and just threw them in the lake for a few days until he could get to them. I was not a happy camper.

So, recently we had a family gathering at a restaurant and he tracked me down and asked if he could borrow my tractor and brush hog for a few days. That would have meant I loaded it all up on my trailer and delivered it to his job site. I just looked at him and said, "son, that is so not gonna happen", and turned away. Of course the wife heard it all and whispered to me that I could have just turned the other cheek and helped him out again. I just looked at her and she turned away never bringing it up again.

Do I carry a grudge? Hell no. Just a belief in what goes around comes around.



I don't even think of that as carrying a grudge. He would not even take care of the tools you let him borrow the first time. You would have been a fool to let him repeat that again, especially with machinery that costs thousands of dollars.


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If you hold a grudge against somebody you're letting them live in your head, rent free.
If this is the case, then you are doing it wrong.

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The point of holding a grudge is to keep the cause of the grudge out of your life. Forever.
I don't think the word "grudge" means what you think it means.

grudge n. A strong feeling of anger and dislike for a person who you feel has treated you badly, especially one that lasts for a long time. A feeling of ill will or resentment.



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I dont let a grudge take up my time or effort. However, I do have a long memory.

YooperSigs describes what I strive for, but it is a work in progress because I do tend to hold grudges.

I try to keep this adage in mind: "Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die.”


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My 3 levels of holding a grudge:

1. Normal grudge, which I learned from my two sisters and mother. I also learned there is a difference between male grudge (once it is over, you forget about it) and female grudge (once it is over for this round, all information is filled away for future conflict).

2. This level of grudge is actually referred to as Vendetta and caries all manner of conflict from asymmetrical combat to the nuclear option.

3. The highest level is Black Irish Vendetta. I have a double dose of this from both sides of the family. Normal Irish anger is like a gasoline soaked bonfire, it burns brightly and quickly, and then it is out and off to have a drink with the one who angered you. Black Irish Vendetta is: No matter where you go to hide, you will still be on the same planet as me.....and I will FIND you.
 
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So many Internet Psychologists telling me how I should feel . If I choose to hold a grudge then it's for a good reason . I tend to let a lot of things pass without reacting or responding . Unprovoked personal attacks are a whole different ball game and those are the things that I never forget .
 
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I do have one incident from my early teens where I not only held a grudge but acted on it:
I used to hang out with a kid who had an older brother who was a notorious bully. The bully once turned his attention to me by impaling my foot with a lawn dart. Many of you will recall them. They were called "Jarts" and are now outlawed. And no, we weren't playing a game, it was an intentional act. I limped home and explained the situation to my old man, whining that I couldn't prevail in a confrontation with the bully. The old man then gave some sage advice. He told me to watch the bully carefully and at some point, he would be alone (bullies love an audience) and open to revenge. So I put this dude under discreet surveillance and found he often rode a bicycle to visit a chick in the neighborhood. One evening after dark, I was waiting in some bushes along his route, armed with a broken mop handle. As he pedaled by, I stepped out and used the mop handle to dismount him. I then pounded a few knots on him. Between the dismount and me, he was pretty much the worse for wear. I told him if he ever fucked with me again, I would kill him. The best part of this incident is that word spread like wildfire through the neighborhood about my revenge and I had no other incidents with local thugs, as they all thought I was nuts.
The rest of the story:
Years later, as a cop I responded to a shots fired domestic. Turns out my bully had thumped his live-in girlfriend once too often. She got tired of it and shot him. In the gut. With a .32 that was actually his gun. The resulting belly wound developed into peritonitis and nearly snuffed him. The Grand Jury returned a No Bill on the shooting so it was a happy ending.
Grudge held. Grudge resolved. Long memory.


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I'm sure most of you know this one:

Holding a grudge is like taking poison and hoping the other person dies.

I think the quote is actually in reference to not forgiving, which is close enough.



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Being 3/4 Sicilian, my answer is "forever." Big Grin
 
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I'm sure most of you know this one:

Holding a grudge is like taking poison and hoping the other person dies.

I think the quote is actually in reference to not forgiving, which is close enough.


There are some I will never forgive. And while I dont actively fester on it daily, these are people if I had the chance to fuck them over I would do so happily and with great enthusiasm and walk away content that karma is a bitch.

That list is very small. But its there.

So its not me taking poison so much as if had the poison and their back was turned, would I pour it in their coffee? For most no. For a select few, hell yeah. Metaphorically speaking of course.

There was one coworker I didn't like. She was difficult and just a pain. Anyway she rubbed a lot of people wrong. She finally got into a jam and everyone was piling on. For some reason when I had the chance to pull the trigger I didnt. I said I did it and lets move on. My boss was shocked, and this girl called me also shocked I saved her ass because we didn't get along. She cried and thanked me. I didn't hate her I just didn't care for how she conducted herself. She was a bitch, But not an evil bitch.

But for people who deliberately went out of the way to lie, stab me in the back, and are just weasel scumbags, those I would pull the trigger, pile on, and smile while they got fired.




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I can't say as I've One of two things happens: I either forgive or I simply remove them from my life. In the latter case I simply never think of them anymore.



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Absolutely nailed it...
 
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I tend not to hold grudges. But if your behavior changes my perception of you so much that I realize you aren’t the person I thought you were, there is no undoing that.


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This is a timely thread. One of my high school classmates died 2 days ago. He bullied me to the point I almost didn't graduate, due to missing so many school days. I was terrified of going to school. I'm glad he died young and I hope he suffered during his illness and that death came slowly. I would not hesitate to piss on his grave if given the opportunity.


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I too am a big believer in karma but can hold a grudge in a minute. I don't have many but my soon to be daughter-in-law will make it to the top of the list. The way she treated my wife and grandson, her stepson, was downright nasty. I just hope I'm around to see what karma falls upon her.



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I had a supervisor that gave me hell . He was spiteful and vindictive . He finally pissed off enough people that somebody went to HR and he found out real quick how many people hated his guts . I was all too happy to give my opinion when they interviewed me . The company forced him to retire . Yes , I held a grudge . I found out about a year ago that he died . I'm sorry for his family but overall the world is a better place without him .And I would piss on his grave if it wasn't an hour's drive away . I don't want to waste the gas on his sorry ass .
 
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Not sure about it. I guess in some aspects I do, as in I will never trust those people again if I run across them. I don’t think about them though. I figure karma will rear its head eventually for them. Do I feel resentful over things that happened? Somewhat, but not enough to hold a rage toward them. I think I’ve mostly gotten over it, chalked it up to educational for me, and tried not to get in those situations anymore.
 
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"Revenge is a meal best served cold."

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Of the midnight ride Revenge of Paul Revere J3Eeagles.

At work one day a guy we'll call Dave ('cause that was his name) played a harmless prank on me. I even forgot what the prank was, but remembered who it was.

About 18 months later, in the frigid winter of central Pennsylvania, at night, the temps in the teens, Dave was working overtime on my 3rd shift. His overtime was from 10pm to 2am.

I took a spray bottle and filled it with water and went out to the parking lot and began spraying water on his door handles and windshield. About every 15 minutes I sprayed again, and again for about 2 hours.

Dave didn't get out of the parking lot for quite some time after his OT. First, he really had a difficult time getting in his truck. The windshield and wipers were heavily encased in ice. You are the first people I have ever told this story to. Don't tell Dave. I still smile thinking about my revenge.





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I do carry a grudge . I also believe in Karma . And if I can help it find you then so be it. Leave me alone and we'll be just fine . Fuck with me and I'll devote a lot of time to making you miserable . I don't recommend that for anyone else but it's just the way I am and I'm good with it .


I too feel this way. Some people don't deserve to consume oxygen.



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I'll point out that "holding a grudge" is an innate survival mechanism of our species and exists as part of our tribal nature; that is to say, it aids us in determining who we trust and who we do not trust.

In this generation of humans and all generations past, "holding a grudge" has saved the lives of countless humans.

I realize this does not mesh with the meaning of the OP's question, but nevertheless, it is true.
 
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I’m not much of a grudge holder. If someone does something to piss me off badly enough, I’ll cut them out of my life. I won’t go out of my way to get even, but I won’t lift a finger to help (The expression “Wouldn’t piss on them if their guts were on fire.” comes to mind.) either.

I’ve come to the conclusion that I have too much other stuff to worry about to waste any cycles on some jerk.
 
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