Glad your CX-5 likes the CrossClimate 2 tires. My CX-50 came with Goodyear Eagle Touring and they are LOUD on Arkansas roads.

quote:

Originally posted by Graniteguy:
If you are looking at Continental, look at the Extreme Contact DWS06.

They are the DWS06 Plus these days. I would run those, as well. Been running them on my cars, for winter tires, since 2008 and have them on my performance car currently for another month. Phenomenal tires, especially in the rain, but for a high performance all season, only choice for me. 2nd choice in this space would be the Pirelli PZero all season. I run Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3’s on my Ridgeline as they don’t make the DWS06+ in my tire size. I would look at those also as you will probably get more mileage out of them. I’ve been happy with them and run them and ran the Verde’s mentioned early as my previous set on the truck.

The other thing I’d look at is going down on your tire size. I just checked and many Passport owners have gone down to 18’s. Your tire cost would go way down and you’d get more rubber. The 20’s I checked are going to be $1600 a set with road hazard insurance that includes rotations and balancing. That tire cost is akin to staggered Mustang/Camaro tire cost. Flow formed cast aftermarket wheels are priced excellently these days, especially Enkei. And you could sell the OEM’s for most of what the aftermarket wheels would cost. End in the end less on the wallet once this is done, than buying replacement 20’s. This trend to go larger and larger on wheels, and skinnier tires is a looks thing and I highly doubt anyone with a CUV is trying to go win wheel style points at Cars and Coffee meets.

Defenders or the LX25 for a great combination of extremely low-noise, long-wear life, and good traction in all conditions up to and including snow, up to the point that you would actually still be driving under reasonable circumstances. I sell tires, and the LX25 are what I run on my wife's expedition these days. The Michelins are great too, but I think Conti has the edge in road noise.
On the subject of the Michelin cross-climate, or any other directional tire, I tend to steer clear of those. They are far more prone to develop adverse wear patterns that generate noise, and are impossible to rotate correctly unless dismounted from the wheels.

quote:

Originally posted by FenderBender:

quote:

Michelin CrossClimate 2

if you're not going off road, and you're not interested in 2 sets (summer/winter) this is the best tire you can put on any car where it snows with any frequency.

We put a set on one of our cars a few years back. They have been outstanding.

I have been running Cooper Discoverer Enduramax and Road & Trail AT on my Foresters and Outbacks with great results.
Excellent all season performance, bullet-proof in snow and tread wear way beyond the 60-65K warranty

This message has been edited. Last edited by: sgalczyn,

quote:

Originally posted by FenderBender:

quote:

Michelin CrossClimate 2

if you're not going off road, and you're not interested in 2 sets (summer/winter) this is the best tire you can put on any car where it snows with any frequency.

This is accurate! Being that he looks to be in York PA probably gets a good touch of snow.

Michelin Defenders are a softer, smoother, quieter tire than the CrossClimate.
However the CrossClimate is far better in the rain and snow than the Defender and the Defender is really good. But how good the CrossClimate is in in climate weather they are worth the slight loss in ride comfort and noise that you will get used to shortly.

Wife’s Navigator came with Pirelli Scorpion Verdes and they are no good in ice and snow.
They will be replaced with CrossClimates without a doubt.

Can't go wrong with Michelin.

I’m running CrossClimates on an AWD and am quite satisfied.

I also got a Really! good deal for some Yokohama Geolander X-CV’s thru Wallyworld for our Uber large family hauler 4WD SUV, had them mounted at one of the local major tire chain stores across the street where they honored all their normal services (R&B, etc) for a modest fee. All said and done it was about $800 total. Not bad for factory 18” wheels.

These Geolanders are billed as designed specifically for today’s luxury suvs/crossovers…they’re pretty nice/smooth…tho they do seem to take minute or two to ‘warm up,’ but they only have maybe about 1000 miles on them so far.

$.02 worth/ YMMV (literally)
Boss

For those of you using directional-tread(DT) tires - how did they react after rotations?

I tried DT's in the past on my Subarus - after the 1st or 2nd rotation (same side only - can't x-cross DTs) road noise and wear got wonky.

Yes - alignment was always good but my Subies did not like them. I'm taking note on the CrossClimate good reviews -- but hesitate to try based on the DT experience in the past.....

Another vote for Mich Defenders.... at 8k miles, I replaced the ridiculous OEM selection of Goodyear Eagle Touring on a Ram 1500 Ltd Diesel...

bridgestone weatherpeak
I've been running these on wife's CRV and my Ridgeline. Note we drive 8 miles of Iowa gravel road every day. That was my biggest complaint with cross climate that single directional design didn't last on gravel. And we've never gotten close to any manufacturers milage but the weather peaks are lasting pretty well. We're at 55k with 3/32 left but wife got a staple and Costco offer $50 a tire mileage warranty. So we just recently changed the out.

They are great in snow, rain, mud very happy. Road noise is decent as well.

Additionally, on my Ridgeline I previously did the blizzark for 4 winters and I say I noticed a difference moving to the weather peaks in winter.

I went through this last year and went with Defenders, but you said they wouldn't fit your Honda.

I looked at the Cross Climate and didn't like that they can be louder. I wanted a quieter tire. I was also not worried about snow or off-road use. I get fine snow tracking with AWD for the few times I need it a year.

If I were somewhere I had to drive in the snow often, I would definitely consider them.

Thanks again, all. I've decided to go with the Continental CrossContact LX 25. From what I've read online it's a great tire that is very different than the previous generation, improved greatly, and meets my needs (which doesn't really involve much snowy travel).

quote:

Originally posted by Chris17404:
Thanks again, all. I've decided to go with the Continental CrossContact LX 25. From what I've read online it's a great tire that is very different than the previous generation, improved greatly, and meets my needs (which doesn't really involve much snowy travel).

Good choice. I looked at those myself before I went with the Defenders.

I am running Crossclimate 2s on a Subaru WRX and a Lexus NX 350. We have snow. I am very pleased with the performance. Since you deal with very little snow, the CrossContacts look like a good choice.

I have Pirelli Scorpion tires on my XT5. They've been good so far.

quote:

Originally posted by sgalczyn:
For those of you using directional-tread(DT) tires - how did they react after rotations?

I tried DT's in the past on my Subarus - after the 1st or 2nd rotation (same side only - can't x-cross DTs) road noise and wear got wonky.

Yes - alignment was always good but my Subies did not like them. I'm taking note on the CrossClimate good reviews -- but hesitate to try based on the DT experience in the past.....

The cross Climates are rotationally directional, not laterally so X rotation does require a re-mount but nothing partially special.

quote:

Originally posted by FenderBender:
The cross Climates are rotationally directional, not laterally so X rotation does require a re-mount but nothing partially special.

My shop rotates for free......remount will have a fee unsure of the cost benefit overall - but you are correct

quote:

Originally posted by dbgeek:
I put Michelin defender on my 4Runner. They are quiet, did well in snow, and wear like iron.

Same vehicle, same tires, same results. I’m in Northern NH and they do fine in snow and dirt roads.