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Would you buy the new Ford Ranger 2019?

Having been in the auto service (dealership) business for many years (20+) several careers ago I can tell you NO.
How about a HELL NO...
Never buy a first model year vehicle. Sometimes not even the first 2 or 3 years if the new model vehicle has a new or "upgraded" engine/transmission or other serious powertrain change.
I could fill pages with horror stories.
Personally, I prefer purchasing the last year of a model run right before they introduce the new "upgraded" model. Most if not all of the "bugs" have been worked out by then and they also deeply discount the "old" model significantly just before introducing the "new" model.



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Would you buy the new Ford Ranger 2019?

Having been in the auto service (dealership) business for many years (20+) several careers ago I can tell you NO.
How about a HELL NO...
Never buy a first model year vehicle. Sometimes not even the first 2 or 3 years if the new model vehicle has a new or "upgraded" engine/transmission or other serious powertrain change.
I could fill pages with horror stories.
Personally, I prefer purchasing the last year of a model run right before they introduce the new "upgraded" model. Most if not all of the "bugs" have been worked out by then and they also deeply discount the "old" model significantly just before introducing the "new" model.


Things aren't like they used to be back in the day. I ordered a 2018 Ford Expedition and took delivery of it June 1st, 2018. So far zero issues with the vehicle.

I wouldn't buy a ranger simply because they're too small inside for me (I'm 6'3).
 
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I'm very glad the thread was updated with confirmation that removing the front tire is not required to access the oil filter. That's a plus. Unfortunately for me, I've been following the reintroduction of the Ranger for almost three years, reading every article, and watching every video. I won't say 'no' to buying one for sure until I've actually sat in and driven one. But given it has a center console that's smaller than the one in a friend's Corolla with a top arm rest that is just weird, a rear floor that isn't flat when the rear seat is folded (come on), a price tag I believe is slightly too high for one equipped as I'd want it, and the fact that Ford has jerked all of us around for almost three years over promising and under delivering, I'm doubtful one will find its way to my garage. And notice I didn't refer to a single maintenance related issue. Wink


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https://www.motor1.com/news/30...d-ranger-oil-change/



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Dawn McKenzie, product communications manager for Ford's pickups and commercial vehicles, confirmed the correct information, telling Motor1, "The wheel does not need to be removed to change the oil or the oil filter in the 2019 Ford Ranger."

The furor over this process is easy to understand, particularly among enthusiasts. Over the decades, cars have become increasingly difficult for shade-tree mechanics to work on. Whether it be specialized tools and computers or something more absurd, like the deletion of the dipstick entirely (we're looking at you, Germany), performing a simple service at home sometimes isn't easy, let alone possible. But at least in the Ranger's case, all five people that will do their own oil changes can rest easy in the knowledge that the wheels can stay on their truck.

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I know it's not a truck, but I do appreciate the set up on our Subarus. Filter is up on top, there's a cutout in the undercarriage cover to access the drain plug. I replaced the OEM plug with a Fumoto plug. so, attach a piece of drain tube to the Fumoto nipple, flip the lever. While it's draining remove the filter, attach new. After drainage stops flip lever, remove tube, fill.Takes longer for the oil to drain out than to do everything else, so it's a good time to check everything under the hood.



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Man at least in regard to the looks department Ford knocked it out of the park.
I am not a fan of the particular wheel choice or Rough Country
But this thing lifted is spot on!!!!!

https://youtu.be/EJDg5wFX480

If I did not have 3 kids this would be without a doubt something I have in the driveway right now.


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Looks like they paid attention to the Tacoma eating their lunch and decided to combat that.



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Looks like they paid attention to the Tacoma eating their lunch and decided to combat that.


Hard to say the Tacoma was eating their lunch considering the Ranger has not been offered in 8 years.
If I recall correctly from it’s introduction in 1983 to it being discontinued in 2011 (in the states) pretty sure the Ranger was the number 1 selling midsize truck every year.

I have no clue why Ford stopped selling it here. But looks like they have knocked it out of the park with it’s return unlike the Bronco.

Thoughts of a 2020 Raptor Ranger with the 3.5L Ecoboost Eek


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Looks like they paid attention to the Tacoma eating their lunch and decided to combat that.


I'm not so sure. There is a reason Toyota is still offering 0% financing. Their trucks aren't selling as well as they'd like.


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Here's Motor Trend's first test of the ranger, just the first part:

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2019 Ford Ranger First Test: Old Dogs and New Tricks
Testing the new 2019 Ranger

The shiny, black 2019 Ford Ranger idled up, but I could smell the brakes from across the parking lot. The window rolled down, and from inside came the determination I was expecting, not the one I was hoping for.

"They spent an entire afternoon on chassis dynamics, did they?" testing director Kim Reynolds asked, rhetorically.

Uh, oh.


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Kim learned in one figure-eight test what I'd been hoping for a week wasn't true. The new Ranger is never settled. Its body is always moving, and as a result, so is yours. Bouncing up and down, tossed side to side, thrown forward or back into the seat. And that's the Lariat model. We drove the FX4 off-road model, as well, and it was even worse. Entering a driveway at an angle was guaranteed to send your head flying toward the door window like that viral video of the people in the speedboat getting tossed like rag dolls. You constantly feel like a buoy in rough seas. I actually crawled under the truck to verify that A) it had anti-roll bars, and B) they were connected (yes and yes). The Lariat is better, yes, but as features editor Christian Seabaugh put it, "If the FX4 is a 2/10 in ride quality, the Lariat is a 5/10. At least the Lariat doesn't make me carsick."

"The Ranger, being the newest truck on the market, somehow manages to feel the oldest and least refined," road test editor Chris Walton said. "It feels like a '90s F-150."

This is the company that builds the F-150 Raptor, a truck that charges across deserts floating like a classic Lincoln. It's a company we awarded Truck of the Year in 2017 and 2018 for the excellent F-Series Super Duty and F-150, respectively, with little deliberation required. Trucks are what Ford does best … most of the time. To say the Ranger's ride, handling, and noise/vibration/harshness are disappointing is to say the Super Bowl is a football game. You can improve it marginally by putting weight in the bed, but with Ford pitching this as a "lifestyle" truck, I have to wonder how many owners are going to haul anything but air.


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If you read farther, they say it works better with a load. They also say that this version is a placeholder, having taken the "world" version of the Ranger, upgraded for emissions and safety and fluff, and that the real US ranger won't be here for years yet.
So if that's all true then that's it for me. Changing the oil is the least of it.


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https://www.motortrend.com/car...a-tacoma-comparison/

I own a 2017 Colorado Z71 Crew Cab I bought new. Have 45k trouble free miles on it currently and couldn't be happier. I'm generally a Toyota guy but the new Tacoma sucks, and Motor Trends opinions of it in this comparo exactly mirror my own findings when I was shopping.

In regards to the original question? Not a chance in hell I'd own a new Ranger. It ain't even new, it's just new to here.


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I wouldn't buy one, but I'm not the demographic for it. I have a truck, but it's for hauling an 18 ft trailer filled with hay, a tractor or a horse trailer. It's an 04 Dodge 2500 with a Cummins diesel. I drive a car for commuting back and forth to work.



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If we are past the 4 pages of oil filter changes, lets get back to talking about the vehicle.

4-banger and 10spd automatic. No thanks.

Ford is killing me with their go-cart engines.

No replacement for displacement!





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If we are past the 4 pages of oil filter changes, lets get back to talking about the vehicle.

4-banger and 10spd automatic. No thanks.

Ford is killing me with their go-cart engines.

No replacement for displacement!


I used to say the same.
I prefer my 3.5L twin turbo in my Expedition over an V8 I have owned.
Chevy 350 in an 89 Silverado
5.3L Vortex in my 2000 Silverado Z71. Heck of a motor right here but this 3.5L Ecoboost is fantastic. Granted I have the 6 speed and can’t speak on the 10 speed.


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Thoughts of a 2020 Raptor Ranger with the 3.5L Ecoboost Eek
Keep dreaming. That will never happen. Better to hope for the smaller 2.7L V6 Ecoboost which I'm also doubtful Ford will see fit to install in the Raptor.


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Here's Motor Trend's first test of the ranger, just the first part:
This is a huge part of the reason I no longer spend any money on Motor Trend magazine.

So far I've driven two brand new 2019 Ford Rangers. A XLT 2x4 crew cab and a Lariat 4x4/FX4 crew cab. The truck drives very good and very comfortably. Noise is minimal, and acceleration is 'very' good. Actually, surprisingly good. And that's coming from someone who's continuously stated the F-150 isn't a truck without a 5.0L V8 on board. I was very skeptical about this Ranger and I'm still not 100% sold on it because of a few niggles that impact me personally, but the little truck did impress me far more than I thought it would. What I wasn't as impressed with was the sticker price. The Lariat truck I drove stickered at $46.6k and the dealership was none too interested in negotiating on it given Ford is trickling inventory to them. Now if I could land a nicely optioned XLT 4x4/FX4 crew cab in October for around $33k (when dealer lots are likely to be full of Rangers just prior to the 2020 model being released), that would go a long way toward me pulling the trigger on one. But then there's that nagging question looming in the back of my mind...What if Ford opts to make the Ranger Raptor available in 2020?

If you're interested in the Ranger, your best bet is to wait it out until late this year when pricing becomes more reasonable and the future of the 2020 truck becomes more clear.


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If we are past the 4 pages of oil filter changes, lets get back to talking about the vehicle.

4-banger and 10spd automatic. No thanks.

Ford is killing me with their go-cart engines.

No replacement for displacement!
Rather than yap about something you've never driven, go drive a new Ranger and see for yourself what its "go-kart" engine is capable of. It might just surprise you....like it did me.


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I've logged a bunch of miles in my FILs f150 with its EcoBoost and 10spd transmission and rental explorers and understand what the EcoBoost is capable of. It is one of the many reasons why we bought an explorer with the v6 and not a gocart engine. Although reducing the octane rating to 87 and getting the 270hp is a plus.

I listened to a review of the ranger on YouTube earlier tonight and he nailed it by saying it sounds like your driving a civic.

Back in 05 when I bought my Frontier it was specifically because it had the vq V6. An outstanding platform! If and when I'm in the market again for a midsize truck it won't have a turbo 4cyl either. I'd get the gladiator first, its v6 will have about the same hp and it'll have a 6 speed manual transmission. Tho I do think the ranger is better looking

I'd really like a 2020 Bronco but I'm sure they'll ruin that too.

Sorry if I offended your 4cyl sensibilities but I put a 351 in my mustang instead of a 302 for a reason and I want a v6 in my midsize truck too. AND I'd want a v8 in my full size truck or bronco!





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I know it's not a truck, but I do appreciate the set up on our Subarus. Filter is up on top, there's a cutout in the undercarriage cover to access the drain plug.....


You're right I wish the engineers of all manufacturers would change their own oil in the vehicle they just designed then change it in a Subaru. Even the older Subarus with the filter underneath right beside the drain plug, positioned vertical was a breeze.



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4-banger and 10spd automatic. No thanks.

Ford is killing me with their go-cart engines.

No replacement for displacement!



It seems to be the trend. The new Silverado comes with a 2.7 4-banger which has cylinder deactivation which drops it to two cylinders. Eek


FWIW I'm liking my Honda Ridgeline more every time I get in it.


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