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Forum member dave7378 has been arrested in the Turks and Caicos islands. **All members, please read this**

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April 03, 2023, 08:40 PM
smschulz
Forum member dave7378 has been arrested in the Turks and Caicos islands. **All members, please read this**
Praying for a just outcome.
April 03, 2023, 08:57 PM
ridgerat
Who is the US ambassador to T&C? Perhaps their office should at least be made aware.

Hoping for the best outcome for Dave and his family!



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April 03, 2023, 09:13 PM
Skins2881
Dave I couldn't possibly have anything to tell you, that you wouldn't have already thought of. Best of luck in this terrible situation.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
April 03, 2023, 09:33 PM
preten2b
We're all here to support you. Like most I'm disappointed you'll need to let this proceed at their pace just to see if the common sense of a simple mistake plays out in your favor. No use in speculating beyond that.


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April 03, 2023, 10:20 PM
Jamess1
I have been and worked in the Caymans over the years. Very similar legal systems.

Excellent local counsel you have. Follow their directions

At least not drugs. That is instantly book thrown at you

As difficult as it will be, Please be humble. That tends to go a long way with island officials

Prayers and good luck.
April 03, 2023, 11:07 PM
Beancooker
I wish the best for you Dave.



quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I'd fly to Turks and Caicos with live ammo falling out of my pockets before getting within spitting distance of NJ with a firearm.
April 03, 2023, 11:49 PM
PCWyoming
Hoping for the best outcome.

PC
April 04, 2023, 01:49 AM
Sigfest
Good Luck Dave
April 04, 2023, 03:33 AM
BansheeOne
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
This is the incident I referred to in my first post. For this reason, among others, I feel as if Dave is going to be OK. Speaking to him on the phone, he sounds to be in good spirits and handling this far better than some others might.


And I'm sure his attorney will cite the case as precedent. Circumstances are a little different - that guy was of course fully aware of what he transported, but never intended to bring it into the TCI, though technically entering their waters was just that. But then the huge amount of contraband compared to just 44 rounds which were clearly introduced by accident since they shouldn't even have been allowed on the plane suggests that you can't very well give the first guy a slap on the wrist and lock the second up for twelve years.

The reasons stated in favor of the earlier defendant, good reputation and that the prohibited items were legally owned at home, also apply here. The mere fact that he is out on bail implies that the local system isn't anticipating to imprison him for a good part of his life, too, since a foreigner with that prospect would be a considerable flight risk. Again, from afar I'd say that causing any public drama would only be counter-productive. In fact people might want to cut down on proposals to just jump on a boat on an open forum.
April 04, 2023, 04:58 AM
Dreamerx4
I am impressed by your immediate admittance,and humbleness. I believe humility goes a long way, universally.

Praying for this situation, a lawyer of high caliber, and a Judge with mercy.

This could have been any of us, may this lesson not go unnoticed and be forgotten.



April 04, 2023, 05:14 AM
gearhounds
This was clearly and obviously an accident of epic proportions. For the life of me I cannot see how TSA missed this in the scan at the boarding flight. Hoping for the best possible outcome.




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April 04, 2023, 05:57 AM
mark123
My brother Dave. I’m hoping this all turns out for good you and you’ve got my support should you need it.
April 04, 2023, 06:09 AM
19tass
quote:
Originally posted by smschulz:
Praying for a just outcome.


This ^
April 04, 2023, 08:34 AM
billpocz
Dave,

While we have not had the pleasure of meeting in person, I want you to know that you are being lifted up in thought and prayer!

I hope this helps you not feel alone in this!!

Bill




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April 04, 2023, 09:32 AM
dave7378
Not a lot to add today. Meeting with my attorney at 3:30. He cited that case in my bail hearing along with a few other relevant ones. I'm just unsure of how precedent works down here. My Congressman, Nick LoLota, called me himself yesterday to let me know that he is working on it. I hear from Chuck Schumer's office later today. I'm working the phones and trying to stay positive. My wife flew down for what was supposed to be a few days and now says she isn't leaving. So at least I have some good company. Other than that it is just a waiting game.


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April 04, 2023, 09:35 AM
slabsides45
Hopefully the fact that it was ammo with no associated firearm, combined with apparent court precedent (no idea how that stacks up over there vs here) will be considered.

Also, Dave will hopefully be able to find numerous locals who will vouch for him being an upstanding guy and benefitting the local economy over several years. I would think that when the judgement comes, consideration of the character of the accused would be made.


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April 04, 2023, 09:55 AM
ador
I hope this gets resolved favorably to your benefit soon. An honest mistake for sure. I hope there is a part of their local laws that will see it that way and just let you off with a warning and a fine. You will be in our prayers. Your friends here in the forum wish you all the best.


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April 04, 2023, 10:01 AM
OttoSig
When I was dealing with this type nonsense in Korea my biggest negative feeling came from people who were close distancing themselves from me as though I had actually done something wrong, as though they’d be guilty by fictional association.

We won’t do that, we’re here on your side if that matters for anything. No caveats, no nothing, we’re here for you.

Otto





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April 04, 2023, 10:03 AM
clubleaf206
Sure hope this works out in your favor and soon.


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April 04, 2023, 10:13 AM
darthfuster
This could happen to any of us. I was stopped by the airport in SLC for a pistol magazine at the bottom of my carry on back pack. Had the TSA missed it and the authorities in the Bahamas caught it, I'd have been screwed. One member here advised I keep my travel bags completely separate from my range stuff. Sound advice. I'm sorry, Dave, for your troubles. Seems like you have the whole varsity team working on your behalf. We're praying for your well being and freedom.



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