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Cheap friend...unsure how to have this discussion about paying fair share

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February 02, 2019, 12:26 PM
acidjazz
Cheap friend...unsure how to have this discussion about paying fair share
This has been going on for years. Somehow I think it's my fault for letting it go on for so long.

Anyway, I got a buddy, he's a good enough friend, and we meet up once every 1-2 weeks for beer or just some bar food.
Basically, a beer or some general bar grub.

The check would generally come to 30 bucks, tip included. Nothing substantial. So at first I'd put down a 20 and tell him to take care of the rest. He'd throw down a 10 and we'd be good. I didn't really think anything of it.
He never offered up anything more than 10 bucks, but that's OK.

Prices go up, and of course the bill climbs accordingly. So say I had 13 bucks worth of stuff, I'd throw down 20. Then he'd throw down a 10. And it wouldn't be enough to cover the check. So I'd dig deeper and put a couple more bucks in.

Next time we meet, same thing. I'd look at him, "Sorry that's all I got." Mind you this is a guy who will either have just gone on a trip or bought himself a new thousand-dollar toy and will talk about his planned acquisitions.

I have to remind him to bring enough to cover the tab.

So last night we went out, same deal...tab was 35 with tip, mine actually slightly cheaper. I throw down 20. He puts down 10. We're still 5 short. He puts some change on the table, "Sorry that's all I brought." I have to cover the rest not to short the bartender.

I don't know what to do. He's a good friend but I just can't stand that.

I'd never let somebody pick up the majority of the tab so many times, I'd be fighting them to pay it.

Any suggestions? Makes me not want to spend any time with him.
February 02, 2019, 12:30 PM
olfuzzy
Separate checks/tabs
February 02, 2019, 12:31 PM
reloader-1
Do credit cards not exist in his world?
February 02, 2019, 12:34 PM
nosticks
Simple, you throw down the ten next time and hand the bill to him and tell him to cover it including a %20 tip. If he bitches, find a new drinking buddy.


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February 02, 2019, 12:34 PM
just1tym
I hate to say it but, I'd go out with other friends. My old buddies from work used to often just pick up the entire check for everybody and ask the others to throw down a tip. It was equally and generously shared to do this often. I miss these guys and the generosity we shared now because I've been retired, but they were a great bunch of guys to meet up for eats.


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February 02, 2019, 12:34 PM
nasig
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
Separate checks/tabs


also, oh my goodness. i forgot my wallet a few times
February 02, 2019, 12:37 PM
comet24
Both put down a card and have them split the check.


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February 02, 2019, 12:38 PM
old rugged cross
It is not going to change. I am with old Fuzzy. Or just decline to go with him. He thinks it is ok? When the hell is he going to put a $20 down? One of my brothers is a bit like this and he is in the best situation to pick up the tab. It is a PP of mine. Not much of a friend imho.

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February 02, 2019, 12:42 PM
recoatlift
Try, Come on Fishooks, ante up! He’ll know you mean him!
February 02, 2019, 12:42 PM
SevenPlusOne
Next time you go out, don't order anything.



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February 02, 2019, 12:44 PM
kkina
Alternate paying the entire bill. You pay this time, he pays the next time. And when setting up the next time, make sure to "remind" him that he's paying the entire thing and to bring $. This arrangement will sort things out very quickly, for better or for worse.



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February 02, 2019, 12:48 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:
Next time you go out, don't order anything.

Yup, just BYOB. Big Grin


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February 02, 2019, 12:49 PM
chellim1
quote:
So last night we went out, same deal...tab was 35 with tip, mine actually slightly cheaper. I throw down 20. He puts down 10. We're still 5 short. He puts some change on the table, "Sorry that's all I brought." I have to cover the rest not to short the bartender.

I don't know what to do. He's a good friend but I just can't stand that.

I'd never let somebody pick up the majority of the tab so many times, I'd be fighting them to pay it.

You're a good friend.... he's a mooch.

quote:
Separate checks/tabs

Next time, if there is a next time... make that clear before you sit down. Separate checks.
You make it clear up front, before you order, that he will pay for whatever he orders.



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February 02, 2019, 12:55 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by acidjazz:
Anyway, I got a buddy, he's a good enough friend, ...

Really? Doesn't look that way from here. Then again: I define "friend" rather narrowly, and somebody as dishonourable as you relate this guy to be I could not call "friend." ("Acquaintance I avoid" would be closer.)



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February 02, 2019, 12:57 PM
FN in MT
Just visited a very close and dear friend, who is also a cheapskate. It's tough to deal with. I am assertive and from the cop job certainly not afraid of confrontation. But....I also hate to hurt his feelings. He grew up dirt poor and despite living an upper middle class life later on, still hates to spend a buck.

I can feel the OP's angst.
February 02, 2019, 12:59 PM
Leemur
Screw him, that’s not a friend.
February 02, 2019, 01:01 PM
0658
I think I'd just not go out with him any longer. When after a few times of not going, he will probably ask why; tell him that you got tired of paying more than your share. If he wants to meet thereafter it will be with separate checks. That is assuming you wish to remain friends at all.
February 02, 2019, 01:02 PM
ZSMICHAEL
I know people like this. How important is the relationship?? Answer that question and act accodingly.
February 02, 2019, 01:05 PM
6guns
I'd prefer to go out alone than deal with that every time.




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February 02, 2019, 01:18 PM
az4783054
Friends don't mooch off their friends. Users do. I would stress with the waiter that you want separate checks. Say it right in front of your 'friend'.

We used to go out with a group of six car club members for dinner. One couple (formerly NY) would always order an expensive dinner. My wife and I would usually order only a soup and salad. When the bill came our cheap ass 'friends' would say it's easier to divide the bill/tip up equally. They ended up getting their expensive dinner at a substantial discount while our salads cost double.