Lieutenant Colonels Sir Archibald David Stirling, DSO, OBE and Robert Blair Mayne, DSO & Three Bars, and Lieutenant John Steel "Jock" Lewes, and the rest of 1st SAS, smile a ghostly smile.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
I’ve been saying this for over two years now. Russia’s going to have the parts of Ukraine they want, and as it drags on, they’ll take more of it. We’re being played by the EU on this one. We really need to stop sending money, arms, everything and tell that smarmy little shit Zelensky “sorry, little buddy, war’s over.”

Yeah... Putin already has what he wants. These terms and condition sheets were created prior to the Ukraine attack on Sunday. These are Putin’s conditions to stop further military conflict.

Now, he just wants a commitment that NATO will stop trying to expand.

Russia Presents Ukraine with “Term Sheets” for Cessation of Hostilities and Ceasefire –

Last week Ukraine presented President Donald Trump with their “term sheets,” what they require in order to accept a ceasefire. Today in Istanbul, Turkey, the Russian Federation presented the Ukraine delegation, and likely a transmission to the White House, with the Russian “term sheets.”

This further clarifies the content of the significant meetings this afternoon in the White House, where President Trump assembled his “military leadership” and likely foreign policy team.

Vladimir Medinsky, the head of the Russian delegation at the talks in Istanbul, said Russia is offering Kyiv a temporary ceasefire. Medinsky said that Russia has prepared a two-part “memorandum” proposing a ceasefire and ending the war it started. The second part of the “memorandum” provides for “variability” and “several paths”, he said.

Here are the two primary parts of the Russian terms: Section 1 “Settlement of Crisis”, and Section 2 “Terms for Ceasefire”.

It should also be noted, the lack of a severe response by Russian President Vladimir Putin to yesterday’s attack on Russian air force bases likely indicates President Putin has what he wants. These terms and condition sheets were created prior to the Ukraine attack on Sunday. These are Putin’s conditions to stop further military conflict.

In Section II containing the “Ceasefire Conditions” (below) Russian President Putin demands Ukraine conduct democratic elections (#7, #8). Putin seemingly knows western installed President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will lose and as a consequence weaken the western influence operations. Both President Trump and Secretary Marco Rubio have previously advocated for the same.

https://theconservativetreehou...e-funny/#more-272596

Moscow and Kyiv presented their respective roadmaps for a potential peace settlement

https://www.themoscowtimes.com...eace-roadmaps-a89315


Russia’s Crimean Bridge rocked by explosions

https://kyivindependent.com/br...n-underwater-attack/

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
I’ve been saying this for over two years now. Russia’s going to have the parts of Ukraine they want, and as it drags on, they’ll take more of it. We’re being played by the EU on this one. We really need to stop sending money, arms, everything and tell that smarmy little shit Zelensky “sorry, little buddy, war’s over.”

It's become apparent... Zelensky does not want peace:

Zelensky Says More Russia Talks 'Pointless' With Current Delegations

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said Wednesday that to continue peace talks in Istanbul between Ukraine and Russia with the current delegations is senseless, and he has again called for talks with Vladimir Putin, after complaining that the Russian leader is sending junior officials who have no decision-making capacity.

"We are ready for exchanges, but to continue diplomatic meetings in Istanbul at a level that does not solve anything further, I think, is pointless," Zelensky said at a press conference, referring to the latest prisoner of war (POW) swaps.

He had described just after the Monday Istanbul meeting that the delegations “exchanged documents through the Turkish side, and we are preparing a new release of prisoners of the war."

They agreed to another large prisoner swap, but little else, as the Russian side has continued to press demands that Ukraine forces leave the four eastern territories annexed by Russia.

But it's what preceded the talks which speaks the loudest, as Ukraine launched its 'Operation Spider's Web' deep inside Russian territory, taking out many Russian aircraft including long-range strategic bombers in what was arguably Ukraine's most successful and brazen cross-border operation to day.

Over the weekend, three bridges in Russia's south were also blown up in suspected Ukrainian sabotage operations, which left trains derailed, and killed at least seven people.

Following that, on Tuesday underwater explosives damaged and briefly crippled Kerch Bridge in what Ukrainian media is calling a 'message to Putin'. So clearly by the looks of it, Ukraine doesn't seem too interested in being at the negotiating table, after complaining that it won't cede to pressure from Washington on giving up territory.

The timing of Sunday's huge drone operation strongly points to Zelensky's desire to come up with greater leverage before serious negotiations are had. For now it seems Kiev wants to sabotage the Istanbul process, while rejecting Trump efforts for a hasty settlement.

For both rounds of talks, Putin had tapped his aide and former culture minister Vladimir Medinsky to lead. From the start many Western analysts claimed this was an 'insult' given that it is not someone more senior. Medinsky, it should be remembered, oversaw the failed 2022 peace talks with Kiev in the weeks after the February invasion.

Gathered around Medinsky were a group of mid-ranking advisers, including officials from the Foreign and Defense Ministries, along with Putin aides - but there was no Lavrov there or someone equivalent to his stature.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...-current-delegations

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1930306225347977475

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Originally posted by chellim1:
It's become apparent... Zelensky does not want peace:

I would go so far as to say it’s been apparent for some time, and now we’re getting to the point where it cannot be denied. He has sabotaged or outright rejected every attempt so far to end the war. Before I read the article Carpentermaas posted, my first thought in response to the drone attack was "sounds like 'Vengeance' weapons and how futile those wound up being in the end." Anything to keep poking the bear, I suppose.

As soon as the war ends, his number is up. At the absolute least, he won’t be president any longer, and I doubt very much that he’ll be welcome anywhere in his own country. That's assuming someone doesn't prematurely and permanently end his career.

In the video above, what are all the tires that are resting on the planes supposed to do?

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Originally posted by yanici:
In the video above, what are all the tires that are resting on the planes supposed to do?

Break up the pattern for AI guided munitions and cruise missiles with video pattern recognition.

These drones were wire guided by close proximity operators and not by Russia's cellular system.

Russia fucked around and found out. Now they lost their bomber fleet. All they had to do is withdraw, nothing more.

This was a Mossad level attack. Kinda like as if russians had trained Hamas for their attack for October 7th and it's been an Israeli payback message.

So, what's the appropriate response when part of your nuclear triad is attacked?

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Originally posted by icom706:
So, what's the appropriate response when part of your nuclear triad is attacked?

You write it, as if the completely innocent Matushka Rosija was attacked without reason.

I guess there are two possibilities, use it or pack up your shit, go home and never, ever come back!

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Foxnews.com: Russia vows to repair planes damaged by Ukraine in massive drone attack, claims they were 'not destroyed'


ROSAL

Ah, that's not gonna buff out.

The Russkies could put some recycled aluminum from the wrecks into new planes, but those three Bears are not roaming the woods ever again, and the other two wrecks, well lets just say Russia's statement was a backfire.

Ukraine hit fewer Russian planes than it estimated, US officials say

https://www.reuters.com/busine...ack&utm_medium=email

The United States assesses that Ukraine's drone attack over the weekend hit as many as 20 Russian warplanes, destroying around 10 of them, two U.S. officials told Reuters, a figure that is about half the number estimated by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

More at link

Yea, if you think 10 or 20 planes wipes out Russia' fleet I got a bridge to sell you.
It does show they have vulnerabilities for sure. But everyone does.
Time will tell. But I think that the Ukrainian leadership, such as it it. And its people unfortunately will pay a heavy price before this comes to some kind of a conclusion for them.

Europe can sustain Ukraine's war effort without US, German general says

https://www.reuters.com/busine...ral-says-2025-06-06/

BERLIN, June 6 (Reuters) - Europe is capable of sustaining Ukraine's resistance against Russia, even if the United States were to decide to completely halt its military support to Kyiv, the senior military official in charge of coordinating Germany's arms supplies told Reuters.

Major General Christian Freuding said NATO's European members plus Canada had already exceeded the estimated $20 billion worth of U.S. military aid provided last year to Kyiv.

They accounted for around 60% of the total costs borne by the Western allies, he said.

"The war against Ukraine is raging on our continent, it is also being waged against the European security order. If the political will is there, then the means will also be there to largely compensate for the American support," Freuding said in an interview.

Ukraine continues to receive weapons deliveries approved by former U.S. President Joe Biden. It is unclear, however, whether his successor Donald Trump will sign off on any new supplies - or allow third countries to purchase U.S. weapons for Kyiv.

Asked how long the Biden-approved deliveries will sustain Kyiv, Freuding said this depended on logistical processes as well as the speed at which Ukraine burns through arms and ammunition, but that the summer seemed a realistic estimate.

"How the American government handles further requests for military support for Ukraine is unclear at the moment. We can't say anything about that," he added.
"In general, the U.S. has a great interest in boosting its own defence industry. I make the cautious assumption that at least purchasing U.S. defence goods, and delivering them to Ukraine, will be possible."

RUSSIAN REARMAMENT

Addressing the potential threat that Russia might pose beyond Ukraine, Freuding said Moscow had a clear plan to reconstitute and grow its military, and was expected to succeed in efforts to double its land forces to 1.5 million by 2026.

"They are recruiting significantly more personnel than they need as replacements for the war in Ukraine. They are producing surplus stocks of ammunition, in particular, which they are 'putting on store'".

Freuding said Russia was also ramping up its military infrastructure, especially in its western military district bordering new NATO member Finland.
Any ceasefire in Ukraine could allow Russia to accelerate its rearmament efforts ahead of a possible large-scale attack on NATO territory, he said. The alliance currently believes this could occur from 2029.

"Of course, a ceasefire could change the threat situation," Freuding said.

Russia denies planning to attack NATO and says it is waging a "special military operation" in Ukraine to protect its own security against what it casts as an aggressive, hostile West.

Germany has provided a total of 38 billion euros ($43 billion) in military aid to Ukraine, including funds earmarked for the coming years, making it the second largest donor after the United States, the defence ministry in Berlin says.

Freuding said he was not aware of the Trump administration having endorsed any U.S. arms deliveries to Kyiv paid for by third countries.
Still, making up for certain crucial parts of U.S. military support to Ukraine would pose significant challenges to Europe.

Listing capabilities that would be hard for Europeans to replace, Freuding cited U.S. intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) data, air defence systems like Patriot and spare parts for U.S. weapons.

"If we are capable of replacing specific (ISR) capabilities to a sufficient extent - we need to look into this when we definitely know the Americans won't provide this data anymore."

Ukraine uses U.S. intelligence data to help its air defence, and analysts say also for targeting.

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Europe is capable of sustaining Ukraine's resistance against Russia, even if the United States were to decide to completely halt its military support to Kyiv, the senior military official in charge of coordinating Germany's arms supplies told Reuters.

Awesome!
Let's take him up on it!
You go, EU! Have at it!

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Yea, if you think 10 or 20 planes wipes out Russia' fleet I got a bridge to sell you.
It does show they have vulnerabilities for sure. But everyone does.
Time will tell. But I think that the Ukrainian leadership, such as it it. And its people unfortunately will pay a heavy price before this comes to some kind of a conclusion for them.

Yep. The Ukraine fans love to jump up and down and yell "BOOYAH!" every time the Ukes land a jab, but the thing is more often than not, when they land a jab, they end up taking a fucking haymaker in response. Remember a couple years ago when the Russians were pulling tanks out of museums because they were on the ropes and the whole thing was going to be over in a matter of weeks? Pepperidge Farm remembers. This fight isn't over until the final bell dings, and we've got a ways to go yet. But yeah, let's cheer what amounts to a terrorist attack on some possibly mothballed and obsolete aircraft and act like it was some Stuxnet-level shit they pulled off lol.

I think it really is a mistake picking a side to root for in this one. These are two deeply corrupt nations led by deeply corrupt men sending millions to their deaths, seemingly primarily over ego. Let Europe take it from here, we need to wash our hands of this. I'll again go so far as to say we need to pull out of NATO because if we don't, we're going to get dragged into the global conflagration Europe seems determined to fight a round 3 of. Fuck 'em, twice was enough. When the whole thing kicks off, it'll be 95% our job in the Pacific. Again. In the last few years, we've been upgrading airfields in Tinian, Guam, Yap, Palau, Saipan, Phillipines and Australia - things that we haven't done since WWII, and I fear it's probably too late and too little of a response to everything China's been doing. We don't have the resources to handle the Pacific and Europe again. We probably don't even have the willpower.

https://x.com/theF35JPO/status/1930233073138053420

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Europe can sustain Ukraine's war effort without US, German general says

Glad to hear the Euro trash can handle this problem. I'm sick of them and their blather. They do ZERO for the US. Go nuts EU (especially Germany)! Hopefully we don't bail their worthless asses out of another couple of world wars this century.

‘Worse than the 2008 financial crisis’ – Germany becomes a nation of bankruptcy with no end in sight
Bleak times ahead in Germany, with one bankruptcy auctioneer in the business for 30 years saying it is worse than the 2008 financial crisis

https://rmx.news/article/worse...ith-no-end-in-sight/