Originally posted by sigmonkey: Ukraine is fighting Stage 4 Russian cancer.
As shitty as that sounds that be the truth sports fans.
April 25, 2025, 08:03 PM
2BobTanner
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Originally posted by bdylan: Russia currently has no death penalty and claims not to have executed anyone since 1996.
Maybe true, but they’ll just put the dissenters into the front lines and problem solved.
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April 25, 2025, 08:31 PM
chellim1
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And the Constitution of Ukraine decides: all temporarily occupied territories – they are temporarily occupied, they all belong to Ukraine, to the Ukrainian people. Ukraine will not legally recognise any temporarily occupied territories."
Good luck with that.
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April 25, 2025, 09:15 PM
JoseyWales2
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Originally posted by wcb6092: Ukrainian media:
Zelenskyy: Ukraine lacks weapons to retake Crimea, but the world has means to pressure Russia
It's not really a question of having enough weapons in this case, it's a question of having enough soldiers. You can have all the weapons in the world, but if there is no one to man them, then what difference does it make.
The day the war of movement stopped and it became trench warfare, is the day it become virtually impossible for Ukraine to "win" this war. They don't have a big enough army to break through layers of static defenses. There is zero chance the Ukrainian army by itself can retake the Crimean peninsula or the Eastern provinces currently occupied by Russia.
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April 25, 2025, 10:27 PM
egregore
This is shaping up to be, for Ukraine, a repeat of the 1864-1870 Paraguayan War (aka War of the Triple Alliance), and for Zelenskyy, Paraguayan President Solano-López. That war cost Paraguay over 50% of its population overall, up to 90% of its military-aged men, and the president his life fighting the guerilla war phase. Look those up and you'll see the parallels.
April 25, 2025, 10:44 PM
old rugged cross
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Originally posted by bdylan: Russia currently has no death penalty and claims not to have executed anyone since 1996.
Lol, so I guess if you don't wish to go to war you can just continue to sell dope on the street corner. Okeydokey.
Oh wait, what happens to drug dealers in Russia? nevermind.
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April 26, 2025, 08:23 AM
parabellum
President Trump meets with Volodymyr the Vacillator
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
April 26, 2025, 06:10 PM
egregore
^^^ That reminds me of this Flintstones clip. Zelenskyy Fred , having been turned into the boss for a day by Great Gazoo, finds who's really in charge.
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April 27, 2025, 01:44 AM
whanson_wi
Zelenskyy talks of "Full and unconditional ceasefire". The path he's on leads to full and unconditional surrender.
You gotta know when to hold 'em...
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April 27, 2025, 04:09 AM
P220 Smudge
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You see you still not wearing a black suit, you still wearing the same t-shirt you were wearing when you were kicked out of the White House! Bro, even at a pope’s funeral you pull up looking like you’re about to fix someone’s WiFi. How do you expect to negotiate peace when you look like you’re negotiating airtime at a street corner?
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That deal definitely changes the equation of the Ukraine - Russia war. Hopefully we get repaid and the meat grinding days are over.
April 30, 2025, 07:00 PM
Mustang-PaPa
^^^^^ The deal doesn't include repayment of funds already given to them. Only on future payments. Trump wanted it for all funds given but they wouldn't agree. Its a start anyway. We need the rare earth minerals. So thats good. Guessing our involvement will have some pull on how little z responds or perhaps a change will come. I really can’t see z bitting his tongue long enough for peace to happen.
April 30, 2025, 07:19 PM
oldbill123
I thought the UK already locked up the minerals in January. They just wanted US to provide military backup.
April 30, 2025, 07:22 PM
old rugged cross
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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa: ^^^^^ The deal doesn't include repayment of funds already given to them. Only on future payments. Trump wanted it for all funds given but they wouldn't agree. Its a start anyway. We need the rare earth minerals. So thats good. Guessing our involvement will have some pull on how little z responds or perhaps a change will come. I really can’t see z bitting his tongue long enough for peace to happen.
Unless I heard that directly from the PotUS I do not think he would sign any deal that was one that didn't give the US what he wanted, period.
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April 30, 2025, 09:20 PM
Mustang-PaPa
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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Unless I heard that directly from the PotUS I do not think he would sign any deal that was one that didn't give the US what he wanted, period.
All I have to go on is the article Para linked above. Go ahead and pick and choose what you want to believe in the article though. Guess you will wait until Trump reports on it before you believe any of it.
April 30, 2025, 09:24 PM
Dakor
Mustang-Papa is correct and it's a shitty fucking "deal" if you want to call it that. More like U.S. taxpayers will continue paying out the ass for some nebulous future benefit and Trump just forgave $500 Billion (!!!) in aid to Ukraine.
It's not our fucking war and I wish Trump had stayed out of it, like Vance wanted.
