Wood chipper, uniform and all...

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
As pointed out, the argument to defend Ukraine's borders while ignoring our own and that it is important to fight Communism abroad while embracing it at home seem crazy. Just like Russia is a third rate army, Ukraine is winning, and the whole of Europe is threatened. Holding two opposing sides of an argument as factual is a mental problem

Except that it isn't really about fighting communism, that's just a front. It's really all about protecting their own personal investments (ROI) in Ukrainian business ventures.

I love the war propagada surrounding this conflict, from that Ukrainian "Ghost" jet fighter pilot who keeps getting shot down and keeps coming back, to this:

"Mean ol Putin!! Get Out!!"

Yeah, Missy, do you have any idea what Russian soldiers do to women in war zones?

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Originally posted by IrishWind:
And Russia is not corrupt? Well, if you really look at it, Putin did a good job of stomping out any corruption that didn't make him richer or questioned his authority.
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Russia? Of course they are corrupt. The difference is the lies being shoved up my ass to fleece Americans to back the evil that rules Ukraine. My money isn't supporting Russia, and I don't buy for a second this is some Russian expansion move to conquer the world.

I'm no pinko, but I have a hard time understanding why Russia wouldn't want them (our corrupt globalist regime) breaking their promises and further impinging on them.

All I have to do is look to the media to hear about the sob stories of Ukraine and their lies they've told all year to know what is going on here. Sure feels like a global battle taking place, ever since our economy was SHUT DOWN in 2020 for no dam good reason and pressure placed across the world to fall in line or else.

Happy to be wrong here, just don't see any reason I would be. Every leftist psycho asshole I'm surrounded by here loves Ukraine and that cross dressing actor puppet they put in charge of it.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
"Mean ol Putin!! Get Out!!"

"Never scared, [...] it's just about the mission."

^^^^
Double

It's funny- when this conflict began, I fell for the war propaganda like a naive kid- the silly "Ghost" fighter pilot stuff, and what was the story about the Ukrainian sailors telling the Russians to go screw themselves, right before the Ukrainians were shelled and all killed? IIRC, it turned out that it never happened.

Remember Jessica Lynch, whose convoy was ambushed by Iraqis in 2003? She became a POW and was rescued in a special forces operation, as I recall. Remember the stories floating around about how she grabbed a rifle and fended off the Iraqis until she ran out of ammo? Yeah, complete bullshit and war propaganda. IIRC, her vehicle got hit by an RPG and she was taken prisoner unconscious.

You would think I'd have learned back then to not trust these stories. Well, I'll tell ya- after this latest set-to, these PR shysters aren't ever going to fool me again. Better late than never.

First Joe, then Yellen, and now another Cabinet member stops off in Ukraine for a quick visit (maybe to escape the roasting he's gotten during Senate hearings lately). AG Garland.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...2c6e2343790ceb&ei=17

Sue, it makes perfect sense for the Attorney General of the United States to jet on over there for a quick 'howdy'. Yep

Again, those of you who are supporting American involvement of this conflict- this is what you're in bed with.

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Originally posted by rat2306:
First Joe, then Yellen, and now another Cabinet member stops off in Ukraine for a quick visit (maybe to escape the roasting he's gotten during Senate hearings lately). AG Garland.

Nah, he's just checking to see if he's getting his share of the U.S. tax dollars sent there eveny month.

Since he's attended to all criminal matters within his purview, he should feel free to travel the globe without a care.

After all, it's always nighttime somewhere.

John Kerry will show up next.....he'll straighten that place up right. What a joke.

This turd named Zelenskyy has a whole lot of chutzpah along with a lot of very dirty dirt on FJB and the rest of his criminal cabal to be making this statement about the necessity of sending U.S. troops to fight in Ukraine (assuming the translation is correct).

This at the 2m 50s mark of an interview on yootoob between Clayton Morris and Col. MacGregor -

LINK

FJB!

I’ll bet Garland needed to sit on an ice pack during his flight over after that scorching he took in congress earlier this week.

This whole Ukraine fiasco reeks of corruption. Regarding Vindman, wasn’t it President Eisenhower who warned of the permanent military industrial complex? How convenient he leaves public service to become a US backed arms dealer.

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Unbelievable. If Garland isn't prosecuted for what he's done we are in trouble. I guess he needed a break from running the Gestapo.

This entire gov't is criminal.

https://simplicius76.substack....strikes-brazen-cross

Our entire involvement is criminal

For some reason I am skeptical of this information.

It smacks more of a false flag incident than a Ukrainian operation.

There is too much propaganda/Mis information going around these days to take this at face value.

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
https://simplicius76.substack....strikes-brazen-cross

Our entire involvement is criminal

Yes, please be careful what you post.

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Originally posted by BillyBonesNY:
For some reason I am skeptical of this information.

It smacks more of a false flag incident than a Ukrainian operation.

There is too much propaganda/Mis information going around these days to take this at face value.

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
https://simplicius76.substack....strikes-brazen-cross

Our entire involvement is criminal

Yeah, I stopped reading after the first sentence. While the school and theatre attacks references were no doubt militants there is a lot of evidence some of the apartment bombings were actually done by the FSB or associated security service personal.

The dog and pony shows that Zelenskyy puts on to garner support is tiring and repetitive.

However, we wouldn’t be where we are now if it was not for the 1994 Budapest Memorandum/s, where the Ukraine was given security guarantees in trade for their nukes.

The West had deep concern over the Balkanizing of ex soviet nuclear states.

Which is understandable, given bough put Ukraine at a disadvantage.

One guarantor was Russia, well that is as good as TP as we now see.

Anyhow, this is all a shot-show and the big money is going to be in the rebuilding of the Ukraine ala the Marshall Plan.