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President Zelenskyy, the answer is no

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October 11, 2026, 02:31 PM
fischtown7
President Zelenskyy, the answer is no
I was reading earlier that replacing Zelensky will solve nothing because Ukrainian constitution or law mandates that whoever is in office is required to maintain or restore the countries border.

So, for there to be a resolution or peace agreement the people/government are going to have to vote for a constitutional amendment.

And according to polls, he is popular and the people will reelect him even if there is an election.

Article 2 Ukrainian constitution.

Article 2 The sovereignty of Ukraine extends throughout its entire territory. Ukraine is a unitary state. The territory of Ukraine within its present border is indivisible and inviolable.
October 11, 2026, 03:00 PM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Replace Ukraine with Israel or *gasp*, the USA.


No. Ukraine is Ukraine. USA is USA. Israel is Israel, and I don't want to send them money, either, but this thread isn't about Israel. That's one country I care about, and two that I don't.


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October 11, 2026, 03:22 PM
ScreamingCockatoo
Let Ukraine turn Moscow into a burned out hulk.
Let Ukraine burn every Russian diesel refinery.
Trump and his oil buddies can suck it up.




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October 11, 2026, 05:17 PM
old rugged cross
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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by fischtown7:
What I do not understand is last week Russia was importing fuel because of shortages of diesel and gasoline.

Yes, and we're exporting diesel but yet Trump negotiates a deal with Russia to import theirdiesel? Bullshit. I don't care for someone pissing down my leg and telling me it's raining. I don't care if it's Trump or anyone. We're getting smoke blown up our asses.


Stop it. We can't keep agreeing like this.
Yet everyone is fine with Netanyahu being a corrupt slime bag. A communist power hungry slime bag. Even my very conservative Israeli engineers don't like him.

Indeed. This IS about oil. and oil company profits. I am capitalistic as anyone but it's NOT up to us to ensure someone else's pockets are lined with free oil cash.
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But you are ok with the US giving hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars to the corrupt little nazi so him and all his cronies can go on unbelievable years long spending spree's. Got it.



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October 11, 2026, 05:59 PM
ScreamingCockatoo
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Originally posted by old rugged cross:


But you are ok with the US giving hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars to the corrupt little nazi so him and all his cronies can go on unbelievable years long spending spree's. Got it.


Yet Israel. And NAZI? Hes a Jew.




He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
October 11, 2026, 06:52 PM
chellim1
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Fuck Putin. Fuck Zelensky.

The Russian and Ukrainian people, I have plenty of empathy for. But I'm tired of us supporting this war and it fucking needs to end. If that means Ukraine loses territory, oh-fucking-well.

Russia's been "on the ropes" since... [checks watch] a month after they invaded, and they were going to invade Poland/Romania/Hungary since about a month after that, and we need to put boots on the ground and Moscow needs to burn and blah blah blah. Utter nonsense from Americans waving the Ukrainian flag. I guess if you repeat it for five years it looks silly but if you repeat it for ten years, maybe some of it will come true?

My position is simple, and requires no boisterous and wild claims: Not our problem, and it needs to end without any more support from us involving money, material, or intel.

Yep. Not our problem.


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October 11, 2026, 10:00 PM
old rugged cross
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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
quote:
Originally posted by old rugged cross:


But you are ok with the US giving hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars to the corrupt little nazi so him and all his cronies can go on unbelievable years long spending spree's. Got it.


Yet Israel. And NAZI? Hes a Jew.


right Roll Eyes So keep throwing billions of US taxprayer dollars to keep the grift going, uh huh.
Let Urope sort it out.



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