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Almost as Fast as a Speeding Bullet |
Anybody have an opinion of what they are waiting for, or are they just going to let this particular sort of ban roll?
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Ammoholic |
What branches of military are using AR15s? Are they very common in war? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Almost as Fast as a Speeding Bullet |
I guess weapons of war look scary, so that must be it. They have truly bought the EBR idea... ______________________________________________ Aeronautics confers beauty and grandeur, combining art and science for those who devote themselves to it. . . . The aeronaut, free in space, sailing in the infinite, loses himself in the immense undulations of nature. He climbs, he rises, he soars, he reigns, he hurtles the proud vault of the azure sky. — Georges Besançon | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
That's just simply outrageous to me. Nearly every firearm ever made, including the ones available to the men who drafted the Constitution, was a "weapon of war." This is all just a bit infuriating. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
Was the rejection a ruling of the full court? Which justices were for and against the rejection? Serious about crackers | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I think you will find that the Petition for Writ of Certiorari did not get 4 votes to accept. The Supremes receive thousands of Petitions every year and can only deal with a tiny fraction of them.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Member |
If a militia is not allowed to bear a weapon of war, then of what use is a militia? So tired of this -- the government has a conflict of interest here. They should not be allowed to make restrictions to bear arms. They should only penalize (heavily if needed) the use of arms used in criminal actions. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Striker in waiting |
I'm not entirely broken up about this. Remember - Gorsuch only replaced Scalia. We're still at a 4/4 split with no telling which way the swing vote will go (or who it will be for that matter). It could have been a spectacular victory - or an equally spectacular loss at this point, particularly following Vegas. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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Well, wouldn't the founding fathers been surprised! I didn't realize that muskets weren't a weapon of war. Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
This. In the words of Alonzo Harris: The conservative justices are biding their time to find the right case at the right time, with the right mix of justices on the bench, to ensure a solid unambiguous victory. They want to avoid the risk of setting a bad legal precedent, as it's easier to create precedence than it is to override an earlier set. | |||
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You don’t fix faith, River. It fixes you. |
Very disappointing. At times I am content to let these liberal states run their own little pockets of tyranny as long as the Free States can continue practicing liberty. But they never seem content to let us be. And they continue trying to push their bullshit 'weapons of war' narrative on the rest of us. I hope the SC finds enough backbone in my lifetime to put this bullshit to rest. ---------------------------------- "If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.." - Thomas Sowell | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
Very disappointed The Court didn't take this case. This is most certainly a Constitutional Issue that effects the entire nation. If this case doesn't qualify, I don't know what does. | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
Personally I don't think the Supremes will be touching the second any time soon, if ever again. Too political. Maybe if there are a few more conservative (or liberal) judges, but not at the current makeup. Think they are content to leave it at the state level. | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
If they ever get a liberal majority, I fear they'll take the case and stick it to us. | |||
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Member |
Wasn't the intent of the 2nd amendment to keep and bear weapons of war, current equivalent small arms that the government uses? | |||
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Member |
Thomas, Alito, and probably(hopefully) Gorsuch know they need five votes to overturn. They also know which justice/s might not get in line on this particular case. Assume three to overturn, four to uphold, and two in play. Roberts and/or Kennedy might not be playing ball on overturning an AWB right now. SCOTUS can hold off until there's a circuit split or a better lineup. I'd love for them to do what's right and what's required but four of them won't under any circumstance and Roberts has shown he'll do the gymnastics necessary to blow with the wind and Kennedy is in final stage legacy build mode. | |||
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We need to get away from this 'weapons of war' bullshit and other Leftist red herrings. It's the right of a person to defend oneself against tyranny in whatever form it takes. No restrictions. This shouldn't even have to go to the SC. These laws shouldn't be on the books. The SC needs to drive a tops down effort to eliminate any law that is in conflict with rights or the Constitution. There is some much politically based bloat on the books it's ridiculous. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Right now the court is 4-4, plus Kennedy. Ginsburg is 84, Breyer is 79. All we need is Ginsburg to pass away or fall asleep too often, then the Supreme Court will come back and align better with the US Constitution. Soon it will be 5-4 or 6-3 in our favor. -c1steve | |||
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Big Stack |
We need a similar challenge in a gun friendly circuit that contradicts the 4th Circuit opinion. That would force the SCOTUS to get off it's ass and do it's job. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Better hope for the election of Roy Moore, as distasteful as that may seem to some. Right now, it will be a close run thing, whether any replacements can be gotten on board before elections muddle things up. You can bet if the margin goes to 51-49, there will be some big egos even bigger. It’ll be like my old classmates, Willie Makit, and Betty Wont. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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