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Wonder if the D-Ill Gutierrez ever read the Constitution:
http://thehill.com/homenews/ho...-disgrace-to-uniform


Dem lawmaker: Kelly is a 'disgrace to uniform'

Democratic Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.) on Tuesday issued an unusually personal rebuke of White House chief of staff John Kelly, suggesting the retired Marine general has tainted his military service by working in the administration as President Trump ends a program shielding young immigrants from deportation.

"General Kelly is a hypocrite who is a disgrace to the uniform he used to wear. He has no honor and should be drummed out of the White House along with the white supremacists and those enabling the President’s actions by ‘just following orders,' " Gutiérrez said in a scathing statement, shortly after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) immigration policy will be phased out.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus member claimed Kelly backed out of a commitment to protect DACA recipients, who were brought to the United States illegally as children, from deportation while serving as the Homeland Security secretary.

“General Kelly, when he was the head of Homeland Security, lied straight to the faces of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus about preventing the mass deportation of DREAMers. Now as Chief of Staff, this former general is executing the plan to take away their lifeline and taking steps to criminalize young people who live and work here legally," he said.





Luis would not be such a smirking asshole and say these things if dueling was still allowed...



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The V is for Vagina
 
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Did Louie Vagina serve in the military?
 
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Did Louie Vagina serve in the military?


The closest he ever got to combat was as a full time cab driver in Chicago




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Wonder what he's doing to protect AMERICA vs illegal immigrants?

Wait..... how in his mind are these 'young people who live and work here legally' actually here legally if they are subject to deportation for being here illegally? Confused....




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The V is for Vagina


I would hope his parents would not have disparaged "vaginas" naming their alleged son after one.
 
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To say what he did about a man who not only spent decades serving his country but also lost a son in AFG makes my blood boil....he needs to be slapped like the little bitch he is.

Is anyone condemning this? Disgusting.
 
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The V is for Vagina

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This is what happens when your party is inept:

Trump sides with Democrats in debt limit, funding, Harvey deal

“Given Republican difficulty in finding the votes for their plan, we believe this proposal offers a bipartisan path forward to ensure prompt delivery of Harvey aid as well as avoiding a default, while both sides work together to address government funding, DREAMers, and health care,” Schumer and Pelosi said in a joint statement.

"We essentially came to a deal and I think the deal will be very good," Trump said.

President Trump described the meeting to reporters on Air Force One: "We had a very good meeting with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. We agreed to a three-month extension on debt ceiling, which they consider to be sacred — very important — always we'll agree on debt ceiling automatically because of the importance of it." Those comments came while the president was en route to a tax reform event in North Dakota, and he did not mention his own party's congressional leaders.

Trump also hinted there could be a deal reached to protect so-called "DREAMers," after his administration announced the end to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program which puts in limbo the fate of 800,000 young people who came to the U.S. illegally as children and now could face the possibility of deportation.

"We discussed that also today, and Chuck and Nancy would like to see something happen, and so do I,"Trump said. "And I said if we can get something to happen, we're going to sign it and we're going to make a lot of happy people."

Pelosi and Schumer said in their statement that "we also made it clear that we strongly believe the DREAM Act must come to the floor and pass as soon as possible and we will not rest until we get this done."

Capitol Hill Republicans, loath to vote twice to raise the debt ceiling, were less than pleased. They said privately that Trump caved too quickly, relinquishing the GOP’s leverage.

http://www.politico.com/story/...t-limit-boost-242376



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Capitol Hill Republicans, loath to vote twice to raise the debt ceiling, were less than pleased. They said privately that Trump caved too quickly, relinquishing the GOP’s leverage.

And Capitol Hill Republicans would know. They are the experts on caving quickly and relinquishing leverage.




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Trump’s unwillingness to go to the wall on the debt ceiling – and his willingness to move along with Democrats to raise spending – is demonstrative of the fact that Republicans all too often talk the talk about debt, but nearly never walk the walk.

The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that the Democrats wield all the power.... even when they are in the minority.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Luis V. Gutiérrez

At first, I thought it was a boxing match.


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Did Louie Vagina serve in the military?


The closest he ever got to combat was as a full time cab driver in Chicago




aawww...that's a Cheap Shot...



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Capitol Hill Republicans, loath to vote twice to raise the debt ceiling, were less than pleased. They said privately that Trump caved too quickly, relinquishing the GOP’s leverage.



leverage?

the kind of leverage you get with a wet noodle?



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They should HAVE a BUDGET.
I'm one of those strange people who think we should balance our spending and our revenue.
As a country, we now operate by "continuing resolution". We don't even pretend to have a budget anymore.

Having said that I believe we should balance the budget.... I still have to wonder: Why do we pretend to have a "debt ceiling"?

"The debt ceiling is a product of the misguided belief that limiting the official borrowing capacity of the government would force legislators into frugality. In reality, it has done nothing to curb financial profligacy."

We should probably scrap the artificial debt ceiling once and for all.... and go back to what they used to call "regular order" for the budgetary process.



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In reality, it has done nothing to curb financial profligacy."


.....while probably true, we still can only speculate just how absurd the debt would be had such a theoretical engine of fiscal restraint been absent even in theory....

While I want to think 'debt ceiling' makes a difference, I can't point to any of the 'continuing resolutions' that support that theory.


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To say what he did about a man who not only spent decades serving his country but also lost a son in AFG makes my blood boil....he needs to be slapped like the little bitch he is.


I agree. Sometimes that is the only right response.


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Trump’s unwillingness to go to the wall on the debt ceiling – and his willingness to move along with Democrats to raise spending – is demonstrative of the fact that Republicans all too often talk the talk about debt, but nearly never walk the walk.

The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that the Democrats wield all the power.... even when they are in the minority.


Wanna let those hurricane victims swing in the wind, unaided?

Without something that imperative, undeniable, there is no deal. They argue and bicker until someone cries "Uncle" or the clock ticks down.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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This whole DACA thing has me perturbed. We all know it is unconstitutional. Trump has said it, and AG Sessions just repeated it the other day. Why are they allowing a plainly unconstitutional policy to continue for 6 months. It should be shut down immediately. I would imagine some state AG could go to court and get an injunction to immediately stop DACA, but for some reason that isn't happening.
 
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I wonder if McConnell, Ryan and the rest of the Republicans in Congress understand the concept of "warning shot?"



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