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Orlando police officer faces termination for injury

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August 10, 2019, 04:36 AM
tleddy
Orlando police officer faces termination for injury
https://www.wftv.com/news/loca...ermination/974304038

Please read!

I am going to write a protest letter to the Chief of Police and the City Commission. Perhaps you could do the same to protest this atrocity.


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August 10, 2019, 05:31 AM
Paten
It's been three years. Serious question, how long do you think they should continue to pay him to not be a police officer?
August 10, 2019, 05:45 AM
Skins2881
What is his injury?



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August 10, 2019, 05:57 AM
HayesGreener
Once he reaches maximum medical improvement and still cannot be medically cleared to return to work as a police officer he would be eligible for a work related disability pension, which he will need to apply to the pension board for. There is also a Worker's Compensation settlement on the horizon which will be pretty substantial. But it is a process to get to the end. This will force the issue.


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August 10, 2019, 07:36 AM
Chowser
He got shot in the helmet during the pulse thing.



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August 10, 2019, 07:44 AM
trapper189
From the article above: "(Police Chief) Rolon said he doesn't think in the end Napolitano will be fired and this could all be worked out. But it has to be done in the next few weeks, or he will be let go."

The Chief seems reasonable, especially after three years.

I also wonder what the injury is. The article mentions the officer's helmet taking a bullet. But the lack of details about the injury and also type of doctor being scene is interesting.
August 10, 2019, 08:08 AM
Rightwire
I'll guess it is some sort of TBI.




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August 10, 2019, 08:18 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Chowser:
He got shot in the helmet during the pulse thing.


Again, what is his injury? The article doesn't specify at all.


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August 10, 2019, 08:53 AM
tleddy
First paragraph:

ORLANDO, Fla. - The Orlando police officer who took a bullet to the head during the Pulse nightclub terrorist attack is now facing termination.


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August 10, 2019, 09:01 AM
gw3971
Yep. Here in Utah they can fire us after 90 days. No such thing as a medical retirement.
August 10, 2019, 09:11 AM
sigmonkey
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by Chowser:
He got shot in the helmet during the pulse thing.


Again, what is his injury? The article doesn't specify at all.



From an article after the event.

https://www.dailypress.com/os-...-20160613-story.html

"...The includes officer Michael Napolitano, who was saved by a Kevlar helmet he wore after being shot at by Mateen. Napolitano was slightly injured, receiving slight lacerations on his forehead and several stitches. ..."




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August 10, 2019, 11:16 AM
pulicords
quote:
Originally posted by gw3971:
Yep. Here in Utah they can fire us after 90 days. No such thing as a medical retirement.


Terrible! You'd think the BLM founders are in charge of the "benefits" programs there. Mad

Even in California, abuse of "the system" is probably as likely to be found on the part of the employers as those seeking a medical retirement. Two former co-workers of mine are still fighting for disability settlements, more than a decade after they retired. One of those officers nearly lost her arm to a gunshot wound received when a suspect wanted for multiple murders tried to kill her as he took a hostage. She fought like hell to recover and return to full duty status, and did for awhile, but there were just too many medical complications to allow her to stay. She was told not to worry, and that the final settlement (including continuing medical treatment as necessary) would come after she accepted retirement. Ten years plus later and Risk Management is still screwing around with her. Terrible.


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August 10, 2019, 11:41 AM
trapper189
This article has more information: Link

His injury is PTSD and he's been waiting for a medical exam that he needs before he goes before a disability pension review board. He hasn't been able, in 15 weeks, to get an appointment with the doctor that specializes in his disability for the exam.

He was assigned a "light duty" assignment a year and a half ago and wasn't able to do that job either.

He isn't being fired because of his injury. He's being fired for not being able to do the job.
August 10, 2019, 12:57 PM
spunk639
He took a bullet to the head, going after a terrorist killing people, didn't hide like the coward Broward Deputy in Parkland and Orlando PD wants to fire him, and people are asking what his injuries are? This is a fucking disgrace, shame on Orlando Police their policies and the Chief.
August 10, 2019, 01:09 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
His injury is PTSD and he's been waiting for a medical exam that he needs before he goes before a disability pension review board. He hasn't been able, in 15 weeks, to get an appointment with the doctor that specializes in his disability for the exam.


Something is amiss here. An appointment for a PTSD exam by a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist should not be that long of a wait. Besides, I would hope that he has seen a psychologist or psychiatrist by this time. I would hope that he has an attorney to expedite the process.
August 10, 2019, 01:21 PM
4859
It doesn't matter if you are Police Officer, Doctor, Lawyer or a Janitor. If you can not longer do the job you are hired to do they can't hold your job open for ever. It happens. I know many Officers I worked with who had to leave due to PTSD. No medical retirement. Voluntary separation.


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August 10, 2019, 01:25 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by spunk639:
He took a bullet to the head, going after a terrorist killing people, didn't hide like the coward Broward Deputy in Parkland and Orlando PD wants to fire him, and people are asking what his injuries are? This is a fucking disgrace, shame on Orlando Police their policies and the Chief.


Dude, he got a couple of stitches and probably a bad headache. I would be out high fiving and buying beers for everyone, while thanking God, and not moping about. His life was saved and he got a scratch in the process and a story that will get him laid every time he goes to the bar.



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August 10, 2019, 01:32 PM
jsbcody
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
His injury is PTSD and he's been waiting for a medical exam that he needs before he goes before a disability pension review board. He hasn't been able, in 15 weeks, to get an appointment with the doctor that specializes in his disability for the exam.


Something is amiss here. An appointment for a PTSD exam by a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist should not be that long of a wait. Besides, I would hope that he has seen a psychologist or psychiatrist by this time. I would hope that he has an attorney to expedite the process.


You don't think the city or worker comp insurance has a vested interest in this? If he gets disability due to injury and to PTSD, then other cops that went into the PULSE that night might claim PTSD (there are a bunch who have or are receiving treatment). I have seen this before with City's trying to block disability claims. If you are out of job due to the city firing you for not being able to do your job, and can't work anywhere else due to the disability, you would probably want to settle quickly for a much less amount.

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August 10, 2019, 01:40 PM
jsbcody
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by spunk639:
He took a bullet to the head, going after a terrorist killing people, didn't hide like the coward Broward Deputy in Parkland and Orlando PD wants to fire him, and people are asking what his injuries are? This is a fucking disgrace, shame on Orlando Police their policies and the Chief.



Dude, he got a couple of stitches and probably a bad headache. I would be out high fiving and buying beers for everyone, while thanking God, and not moping about. His life was saved and he got a scratch in the process and a story that will get him laid every time he goes to the bar.


Wow, an expert on concussions and TBI. The night of the incident, he got stitches as reported. I am sure medical ERs were a little swamped to do full concussion protocols. I have had my bell rung in two different car accidents. First in my late teens; I was walking around doing things except I only remember two hours out of two weeks (friends and family thought I wasn't acting normally but I wasn't acting abnormally this was well before concussion protocols). Second time was on on duty accident; I had a bad knee injury, a broken and separated shoulder, and concussion. I was off due injury for 6 months and I had bouts of blinding headaches/nausea for 2 1/2 months. The kicker was while my head was hurt at time of the accident (exterior bruise on side of head), the headaches didn't start for two days. Lots of tests showed I just had to ride it out. The diagnosis was it would get better, it would just take time and I had to ride out the headaches.
August 10, 2019, 01:52 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
You don't think the city or worker comp insurance has a vested interest in this? If he gets disability due to injury and to PTSD, then other cops that went into the PULSE that night might claim PTSD (there area bunch who have or are receiving treatment). I have seen this before with City's trying to block disability claims. If you are out of job due to the city firing you for not being able to do your job, and can't work anywhere else due to the disability, you would probably want to settle quickly for a much less amount.


Sadly this is often the case. I know this happens. I have firsthand experience with these sorts of issues. I was strongly suggesting that he press the matter. The VA has recently expedited their PTSD claims process by contracting it out to private sources.