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FYI: 30,000,000 grain is 4285 lbs which is approx. the weight of a Ford Explorer

Good on the county executive for backing the officers use of force
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Long Island cop takes down gunslinging suspect with fender side swipe on video

Nassau County leaders praised officer who took down armed suspect who aimed at cops, self before being stopped

By Michael Ruiz Fox News
Published August 16, 2023 3:58pm EDT

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A Long Island, New York, police officer responding to reports of a gun-toting woman outside a 7-Eleven store at a busy intersection encountered an armed man allegedly pointing a pistol at officers and others — so he sideswiped the suspect with his patrol vehicle Tuesday, police said.

Officers arrived and found a 31-year-old Brooklyn man, Kiber Calderon, who also uses the identity of a 33-year-old woman named Hanna Carillo, waving a pistol in the middle of the street around 2:20 p.m., allegedly aiming it at drivers and responding officers.

Calderon was arrested twice in June in New York City but released under a "no-bail" policy, Nassau Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder said during a news briefing Wednesday.

County Executive Bruce Blakeman, who praised his department as the "most professional" in the country, said he was "pleased" with the actions of a quick-thinking officer who used a patrol SUV to knock down the suspect, causing only minor injuries and ending the crisis.

"In this case, it was somewhat ingenious that this officer took the action that he took," Blakeman said. "You had a subject that was pointing a gun at public, discharged the firearm on a public street, pointed the firearm at police officers and then pointed the firearm at his head, which obviously meant that he might have committed suicide had not the police officer taken swift and effective action."

Despite the suspect's appearance, clothes and alias, Ryder said Calderon identified as a male when interviewed by police.

Video of the incident shows Calderon walking sideways through the intersection of Jerusalem Avenue and Bellmore Avenue in North Bellmore, pointing the gun at his own head moments before a marked SUV swerves into view and knocks him to the ground with the front fender.

Other officers then sprint over, take the gun and gain control of the situation.

Nassau County police said they recovered a loaded gun from the scene.

They arrested Calderon on nine charges, including menacing, reckless endangerment and criminal possession of a weapon and drugs.

At the time of his arrest, Calderon was facing charges of second- and third-degree burglary and trespassing in New York City.

Calderon suffered only minor injuries and is due in court after his release from the hospital, where he was being treated for physical injuries and a psychological evaluation.

The officer was also hospitalized for trauma and remains on sick leave, Ryder said.



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Officers arrived and found a 31-year-old Brooklyn man, Kiber Calderon, who also uses the identity of a 33-year-old woman named Hanna Carillo
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Officers arrived and found a 31-year-old Brooklyn man, Kiber Calderon, who also uses the identity of a 33-year-old woman named Hanna Carillo
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Double jail time to account for them both.
 
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The officer was also hospitalized for trauma and remains on sick leave, Ryder said.



??? last line in the report brings up way too many questions and speculations....


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Yeah, and this bullshit of these trouble-making slugs holding a gun to their head when the police show up.

Just what do they think you're doing? Go ahead and fucking shoot yourself. Like anybody fucking cares. You have no hostages so you take yourself hostage. From the heart, most truly and sincerely, I say fuck you. Do it, and save the courts the time and the taxpayer's money except for cleaning up the mess you made.

Seriously, if you watch police bodycam videos, this has become a trend. It's not new, no, but it's definitely a trend, and it pisses me off. Don't just stick the gun to your head. Pull the Goddamned trigger and get off the planet, and you won't hear me with this phony bullshit of trying to talk them out of it like the police are obligated to do. "It's not worth it, man umm ma'am whatever. It's not worth it."

The fuck it's not. "You've got so much to live for!" mmmmmmProbably not. Get the fuck out of the road. You're impeding traffic.

If someone is really asking for help, that's different, but this horse shit of causing chaos in public- no, uh uh. You want to go, then go.
 
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Should have steered a little more to the right…






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The officer was also hospitalized for trauma and remains on sick leave, Ryder said.
??? last line in the report brings up way too many questions and speculations....
Victimhood is such an alluring commodity. If sideswiping that idiot caused an officer to be hospitalized with trauma, they are most assuredly in the wrong line of work. No doubt about it. Quite frankly, it sounds like virtue-signalling in an effort to not be savaged by the leftist crowd. Again, if that's the case, find another line of work.
 
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It's been done before, and better.

 
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Should have steered a little more to the right…


And then reversed.




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The officer was also hospitalized for trauma and remains on sick leave, Ryder said.
??? last line in the report brings up way too many questions and speculations....
Victimhood is such a alluring commodity. If sideswiping that idiot caused an officer to be hospitalized with trauma, they are most assuredly in the wrong line of work. No doubt about it. Quite frankly, it sounds like virtue-signalling in an effort to not be savaged by the leftist crowd. Again, if that's the case, find another line of work.


He's probably taking a couple of days off, getting paid by workers comp and drinking the beer everyone is bringing him.
 
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It's been done before, and better.



That came to mind immediately!


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When I was policing, If we had a person who threatened to kill themselves or pointed a gun at themselves, I made sure they got the whole ride when they went to the jail. The jail would strip search them (normal), but then they got the green moving blanket as a dress and put in solitary and watched, at least for a day or two until the jail nurse came in and interviewed them

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And if you think I'm kidding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvK1QYNeeRk

Of course, it didn't do him any good, but this is a "thing" now, apparently.
 
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It's been done before, and better.



That came to mind immediately!



Me too. As I was reading Para's post that was the first thing I thought of.




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I wonder what the powder charge and primer would be for that projectile



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"I identify as a woman... a slightly older woman." Confused

Have to wonder if that's a typo, crappy reporting or just added oddness.
 
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I wonder what the powder charge and primer would be for that projectile


Compressed 87 octane, and a spark plug.
 
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Yeah, and this bullshit of these trouble-making slugs holding a gun to their head when the police show up.

Just what do they think you're doing? Go ahead and fucking shoot yourself. Like anybody fucking cares. You have no hostages so you take yourself hostage. From the heart, most truly and sincerely, I say fuck you. Do it, and save the courts the time and the taxpayer's money except for cleaning up the mess you made.

Seriously, if you watch police bodycam videos, this has become a trend. It's not new, no, but it's definitely a trend, and it pisses me off. Don't just stick the gun to your head. Pull the Goddamned trigger and get off the planet, and you won't hear me with this phony bullshit of trying to talk them out of it like the police are obligated to do. "It's not worth it, man umm ma'am whatever. It's not worth it."


So, I don’t disagree with your sentiment but I can tell you this, I have seen A LOT of shit coming up on 20 years of doing this job.
Most things I just move along to the next, some things bother me a little bit and I think about from time to time, but I have been in the exact scenario you describe where he did end up pulling the trigger and I can’t tell you why but it haunts me to this day! It will just randomly play in my mind when I sleep on occasion and when I drive by the farm where it happened I still get chills. Can’t explain why but that one still gets me for some reason.
The only thing from this job that eats at me more is the night my beat partner jumped my call so I could go home early for the week and he was killed on that call while I sat at home eating spaghetti!


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Despite the suspect's appearance, clothes and alias, Ryder said Calderon identified as a male when interviewed by police.

Some people insist that you can't "knock some sense into anyone".
 
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