Looks like another potential bit of troubles for Tesla.


https://www.sun-sentinel.com/l...-20190225-story.html

Keeps catching fire? The car, or the driver?

Seems to me they should have taken him to the hospital, but I'm no mechanic.

If you are a first responder or a good Samaritan, be careful of these things. Electrical and chemical hazard.

And yes, I know gasoline has its risks too.

This was funny- Just like a gas tank.

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There is a “post-crash potential” of fire if a battery cell is punctured, “just like there would be post-crash with a gas tank,” industry analyst Karl Brauer told the South Florida Sun Sentinel last year.

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The Tesla was eventually towed to A Superior Towing on Southwest 66th Terrace in Davie where fire crews were called out at least three times during the overnight hours.

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Maybe fire departments should start having Teslas towed to their station's parking lot or to an airport's CFR burn pit for a few days after accidents.


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Keeps catching fire? The car, or the driver?

Spontaneous human combustion? Perhaps Tesla's lawyers are already looking at this as a possible defense?

or start dealing with putting them out in the first place! I'd be strung up if we went back 3 times. But there are special products for lithium battery fires and its coming that every engine will have to carry them.

I have to have a Hazmat label on the package when I ship lithium batteries. Do they have one on their cars?

Thermal runaway

Richard Hammond crashed an electric supercar on The Grand Tour. They said it burned for days.

Makes a Corvette look like a fantastic bargain, doesn't it?

The 21st century version of the Pinto?

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Makes a Corvette look like a fantastic bargain, doesn't it?

Sir, in my opinion, the Corvette has ALWAYS been a fantastic bargain. the only reason I don't have one here in UK is that the roads are getting to be more like those of Botwsana every day, making any ride out in the oulu, where we live, feel like riding a church pew on castors down a flight of steep steps.

Very similar crash happened last week here in New Jersey. The Tesla suddenly veered off the roadway... In this case it just went into a muddy field but seems like there's a real glitch in the system somewhere. Link

My 2019 Mustang has lane keeping and a host of other gizmos and I keep them off most of the time. I’ve found that the lane keeping gets very confused if the lines disappear from the roadway suddenly or it will even try to follow the white line towards an exit instead of continuing straight. A little unnearving but easily correctable and the car doesn’t commit to it. Seems with the Teslas, the car commits to its wrong decision and says “Let's go!!!”

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Originally posted by Doc H.:
I have to have a Hazmat label on the package when I ship lithium batteries. Do they have one on their cars?

Drinking while using a variety of batteries may cause spontatious combustion?

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I have to have a Hazmat label on the package when I ship lithium batteries. Do they have one on their cars?

They're not lithium ion. They're lithium high-on.

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Originally posted by LBAR15:

My 2019 Mustang has lane keeping and a host of other gizmos and I keep them off most of the time. I’ve found that the lane keeping gets very confused if the lines disappear from the roadway suddenly or it will even try to follow the white line towards an exit instead of continuing straight. A little unnearving but easily correctable and the car doesn’t commit to it. Seems with the Teslas, the car commits to its wrong decision and says “Let's go!!!”

It’s no different in the Tesla, the difference is with the driver.

The Tesla will do more so some drivers think it’s auto pilot when in reality it’s auto assist. If that driver in the Tesla crash was paying attention as soon as he touched the steering wheel his commands would over take the cars, just like any car with auto assist.

The drivers always say they were paying attention but the car took over and wouldn’t let him correct but after downloading the data I can’t ever remember someone actually having their hands on the wheel trying to correct. It’s possible this might be the first but I would wait and see first.

Tesla batteries are crazy dangerous when damaged. Adding water to them is an accelerant.

This is the second time in S Florida a Tesla has killed people because of the fire issue.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by Doc H.:
I have to have a Hazmat label on the package when I ship lithium batteries. Do they have one on their cars?

Drinking while using a variety of batteries may cause spontatious combustion?

I think it means, if you drink...these batteries...you will get heartburn....

Quote:We’ve been in touch with their [Tesla’s] South Florida division. Their giving us helpful tips and information. Right now, we’re doing literally what Tesla wants us to to.” he said.

Giving us helpful information? That sounds like phone support "try this and call us back".

If true that's a helluva way to run a potential liability situation at least in my opinion.

Yeah, that is a problem with some types of batteries: if they develop an internal short for some reason the only way to make them safe is to let them discharge, or literally pull them apart to get the anode and cathode separated. The second method is impractical in any sort of emergency, so basically you just have to let them go until they discharge. Of course, even that isn’t perfect as they tend to deform when they get really hot and separate some part of the battery. If those parts come back in contact as they cool, they can start to discharge again. The burn pile joke probably isn’t a bad idea, since some of these lithium chemistries can survive lots of heat and still retain some charge.

I’m waiting for them to go all Star Trek and have a system that ejects damaged cells like the warp core of the enterprise. The idea of tiny flaming batteries launching out the back of a Tesla amuses me more than it probably should!

- Bret