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Originally posted by ASKSmith:
Protestors shut down traffic at a very heavily traveled part of Pittsburgh today. The protestors said this is only the first day of protests, and they plan on shutting down different parts of the city every day.

The other accomplice has still not come forward, and the officer involved has been publicly named.

Might want to avoid Pittsburgh this summer...

This summer? Why would any one ever travel to Pittsburg unless mandated by their employer for business? The City does not have a single redeeming quality or value.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

This summer? Why would any one ever travel to Pittsburg unless mandated by their employer for business? The City does not have a single redeeming quality or value.

I absolutely hate Pittsburgh traffic. That said, there is plenty the city has to offer:
The Three Rivers Arts Festival
Three Rivers Jazz Festival
National Aviary
The Inclines (Duquesne & Monongahela)
Heinz Chapel
The Nationality Rooms at Pitt's Cathedral of Learning
The Warhol Museum
Carnegie Museums
The Strip District
Phipps Conservatory
Heinz History Center
Carnegie Science Center & USS Sequin
Children's Museum
Pittsburgh Zoo
Fort Pitt Museum & Blockhouse
The Mattress Factory (museum)
Primanti's
Several Breweries
West End Overlook
Vintage Grand Prix
Three Rivers Regatta
Rib Festival
Any Light-up night
Steelers & Penguins
Even a Pirate game - for the view of the city
West End Overlook


That's just off the top of my head.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:
Protestors shut down traffic at a very heavily traveled part of Pittsburgh today. The protestors said this is only the first day of protests, and they plan on shutting down different parts of the city every day.

The other accomplice has still not come forward, and the officer involved has been publicly named.

Might want to avoid Pittsburgh this summer...

This summer? Why would any one ever travel to Pittsburg unless mandated by their employer for business? The City does not have a single redeeming quality or value.

Being from Erie I grew up hating the "burgh"...but the last couple times I went there for business I noticed downtown is much nicer. Driving there still sucks....

Gotta love Primanti Brothers!!!

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

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Originally posted by ASKSmith:
Protestors shut down traffic at a very heavily traveled part of Pittsburgh today. The protestors said this is only the first day of protests, and they plan on shutting down different parts of the city every day.

The other accomplice has still not come forward, and the officer involved has been publicly named.

Might want to avoid Pittsburgh this summer...

This summer? Why would any one ever travel to Pittsburg unless mandated by their employer for business? The City does not have a single redeeming quality or value.

I think you are thinking of the wrong city, everyone knows Pittsburgh is spelled with an H. Just curious, where do you live? I kind of hope a lot of people have your attitude, the city is getting a little crowded with interlopers these days!

East Pittsburgh officer who fatally shot 17-year-old Antwon Rose charged with criminal homicide

http://www.wtae.com/article/ea...al-homicide/21964190

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
East Pittsburgh officer who fatally shot 17-year-old Antwon Rose charged with criminal homicide

http://www.wtae.com/article/ea...al-homicide/21964190

I saw in the CNN Article where it said that the indictment was based on "inconsistencies" in the officers statement:

Speaking to police, the complaint says, Rosfeld explained his intention had been to get all three occupants on the ground as he awaited backup. After ordering the driver onto the ground, Rosfeld said, the front-seat passenger exited the vehicle and "turned his hand toward Officer Rosfeld and he, Officer Rosfeld, saw something dark that he perceived as a gun." He stepped out from behind his car door for a better view and opened fire, the officer told investigators.

Asked again to recount the events, Rosfeld "told the detectives that he did not see a gun when the passenger emerged and ran. When confronted with this inconsistency, Rosfeld states he saw something in the passenger's hand but was not sure what it was," the complaint says.

This is another quick "appease the mob" indictment like so many others before.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Sounds like if Antwon’s parents had done a better job being parents, the no-longer-aspiring rocket surgeon might be alive today.

Including naming him "Antwon."

The real irony here is the path this "kid" was on would most likely end up in his death, at the hands (gun) of another black person. And there would be no protests to speak of...

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Originally posted by jsbcody:

...This is another quick "appease the mob" indictment like so many others before.

Quick is an understatement. How could they do a thorough investigation that fast? Oh wait, they didn't, but the mob is happy. For now.

Figured this was a more appropriate place to update instead of starting a new thread. The officer was found not guilty on all counts. The biased news is already starting to stir the pot again.

It's 33° in Pittsburgh tonight. Hopefully the winterlike temperatures keep protests to a minimum. The traffic disruptions last June were most bothersome.

https://www.post-gazette.com/n...stories/201903210103

Former officer Michael Rosfeld found not guilty in death of Antwon Rose; protests begin

PAULA REED WARD AND SHELLY BRADBURY
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
MAR 22, 2019 8:38 PM

Former East Pittsburgh police officer Michael Rosfeld was found not guilty Friday night at the Allegheny County Courthouse in Downtown Pittsburgh.

The verdict ends a contentious case that has divided the region for nine months. It did not end the controversy.

The trial began Tuesday morning and the jurors weighed evidence, testimony and arguments for four days. Jurors then had to decide whether Mr. Rosfeld was justified when he killed Antwon Rose II, who 13 minutes earlier had been in a car during a drive-by shooting in North Braddock.

Minutes after the verdict became known, a crowd gathered on the steps of the courthouse, proclaiming Antwon was a Freedom Fighter.

Shortly before 9:30 p.m., people outside the courthouse began singing "What side are you on my people?"

The response: "The freedom side."

When they left the courthouse, Antwon’s mother and sister showed no emotion as they left on Ross Street. They were escorted by a deputy sheriff and entered a private car to leave the area.

As television cameras recorded the family leaving, an unidentified woman bystander said, “It’s crazy. You’re taking pictures but you can shoot somebody on camera and not be convicted.”

“The verdict was too fast,” said Antwon’s aunt, Carolyn Morrison of Rankin, as she entered the courthouse prior to the verdict. “The trial was too fast. The verdict was too fast. It was all too fast.”

Mr. Rosfeld's wife wept as the verdict was being read in court.

Metal barricades lined the sidewalks around the courthouse to keep people out of the street, but periodic openings allowed people to cross the street.

The city had prepared for the verdict by deploying Public Works snow plows and police officers around the courthouse on Grant Street, Downtown.

Grant Street was limited to one lane of outbound traffic. Two plows were deployed at Fifth Avenue and Ross Street at the rear of the courthouse and one each at Forbes Avenue and Ross and Fifth. Six motorcycle officers were sitting at Ross and Fifth with their lights on.

The only people outside the courthouse were about a half dozen people at the Ross Street entrance, including several media members.

The jury got the case at 4:38 p.m., with the options of a not guilty verdict, or first-degree and third-degree murder, as well as the lesser charges of voluntary and involuntary manslaughter as part of their deliberations. The verdict came less than five hours later.

Under Pennsylvania law, an officer is justified in using force when he believes it is necessary to prevent death or serious injury to himself or others, or if he believes it necessary to prevent a suspect’s escape from arrest. That suspect, the law continues, must have committed or attempted to commit a forcible felony and pose a danger to human life.

The killing of Antwon spurred multiple protests over the summer. The week after it occurred, District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr.’s office filed a single homicide count against Mr. Rosfeld, of Verona, who turns 31 on Sunday. A verdict could bring new disturbances, and local law enforcement and businesses have been planning for that possibility for weeks.

Both the jury selection — held in Dauphin County because of the case’s publicity — and trial moved along briskly. Over two-and-a-half days, county Chief Trial Deputy District Attorney Dan Fitzsimmons and Assistant District Attorney Jonathan Fodi put on 21 witnesses.

On Thursday afternoon and into Friday morning, defense attorney Patrick Thomassey presented just two: Mr. Rosfeld, and a use-of-force expert. Common Pleas Judge Alexander P. Bicket presided.

Early Friday, the jury composition shifted when one white woman was dismissed from service and a white man moved from the alternate pool to the panel that went into deliberations. The final 12-member jury — seven men and five women, including three black jurors -— began its deliberations early Friday evening.

Here’s a recap of the evidence the jury heard.

Testimony began Tuesday with Dr. Abdulrezak Al-Shakir, an Allegheny County forensic pathologist who described the three bullet wounds, including the fatal one that went through Antwon’s back and struck the right ventricle of his heart.

North Braddock police Sgt. Brian Hodges then told the jury about the response to a drive-by shooting just 13 minutes before Antwon’s death, at Jones and Baldridge avenues in the borough he patrols. He said he saw one of the victims, Tom Cole Jr., and Mr. Rosfeld at that scene. Not long after, he heard on the radio Mr. Rosfeld stop the Chevy Cruze suspected in the drive-by, and then a "shots fired" call. He reported to that scene, Grandview Avenue in East Pittsburgh.

Allegheny County police homicide Detective Thomas Foley walked jurors through the crime scene at Baldridge and Jones in North Braddock, describing nine .40-caliber casings recovered from the gun of Zaijuan Hester, 18, of Swissvale, who on March 15 pleaded guilty to three counts of aggravated assault and four firearms charges.

His homicide squad colleague, Detective Anthony Perry, then walked the jury through photos of the East Pittsburgh shooting scene, taken July 23.

Next, spanning Tuesday and Wednesday, came a parade of civilian witnesses to the shooting.

Debra Jones, of Grandview Avenue in East Pittsburgh, said she saw Mr. Rosfeld shoot Antwon as he and Hester ran away. She said that several minutes after the shooting she saw Antwon lying face-down in the grass with his hands handcuffed behind his back.

Lashaun Livingston, also of Grandview, used her cell phone to video record the shooting, and the jury saw that footage. She said she was on her porch — some 180 feet from the scene of the shooting — when she heard Mr. Rosfeld pull over the Chevy Cruze, and began recording because of the tone of his voice. She testified that she never saw the running teens making any motions with their hands, and saw no weapons.

On Wednesday, Peyton Deri, a University of Pittsburgh football player, testified about his video recording of the incident, taken from around 600 feet away.

Grandview resident John Leach said he saw the shooting and heard Mr. Rosfeld say, immediately after, "I don't know why I shot him, I don't know why I fired.”

East Pittsburgh mayor Louis Payne gave his account of the shooting, which he saw the same evening he swore in Mr. Rosfeld as a borough officer. He said his new recruit appeared distraught after the incident. Patrick Shattuck, a community developer who was with the mayor, and has since moved to Vermont, testified that he heard Mr. Rosfeld say, "Why did he do that? Why did he do that? Why did he take that out of his pocket?"

After that, the prosecution called a string of law enforcement officers.

Brian Neff, who was an East Pittsburgh police officer at the time of the shooting, testified that he pulled up to the East Pittsburgh shooting scene as soon as Antwon Rose II and Zaijuan Hester fled from the felony stop. He immediately heard the shots, and then, following Mr. Rosfeld's directions, gave chase.

East McKeesport police Officer Scott Lowden, who is also a certified emergency medical technician, told the jury that he arrived at the East Pittsburgh scene, finding it chaotic with officers "running around." He said Antwon was unattended, and that he uncuffed the 17-year-old, rolled him over to his back, and then turned his body around so his head was uphill toward Grandview Avenue. He said he tried CPR on Antwon, who was having trouble breathing.

Then Charles Rozzo, an Allegheny County Housing Authority police officer, said that he arrived on the scene to see Mr. Rosfeld clearly upset, took the officer to a police vehicle and secured his guns. He said Mr. Rosfeld was overheated, and removed his vest and duty belt. Officer Rozzo took Mr. Rosfeld back to the East Pittsburgh police station.

Anthony Perry, an Allegheny County homicide detective, showed crime scene photos including those capturing two guns — a 9 mm and a .40-caliber, both with extended magazines — found under the front seats of the Cruze.

Turtle Creek and Wilmerding officers talked about the effort to find Hester. And Daniel Wolfe, a member of the mobile crime unit that responded to the East Pittsburgh scene, testified to the small amount of gunshot residue found on the back of Antwon’s right hand.

On Thursday, experts from the Allegheny County Office of the Medical Examiner testified that bullet found in Antwon's body came from Mr. Rosfeld's gun, and that the bullets Hester fired in the drive-by did not match those in the magazine found in Antwon's pocket. They said that fingerprints on the side of the Cruze from which the drive-by shooting occurred matched Hester.

The prosecution’s last witness, Allegheny County police Officer James Holman, used specialized software to break down Ms. Livingston’s cell phone video showing the jury that Mr. Rosfeld fired all three shots in just under one second.

After the prosecution closed, Mr. Thomassey filed a motion for acquittal, contending that the prosecution had failed to show evidence of malice. “We have a police officer who is doing his duty,” he said. “It's not the hardness of heart and the wickedness that's required for first-degree or third-degree murder. It's just not. He is doing his duty.”

Judge Bicket, though, denied the motion.

Mr. Thomassey them presented Mr. Rosfeld -—an unusual move in a murder trial. For just under an hour and a half, the former officer told the jury that he thought Antwon or Hester had pointed a weapon at him. "I did it to protect myself and the community,” he said.

Why three shots? Mr. Rosfeld said he has been "trained to fire until the threat is eliminated."

But when he saw “the threat” lying on the ground, wounded, trying to breathe, he said, “I was upset, shocked."

The defense's use-of-force expert, former state trooper Clifford Jobe, said he couldn't find fault in Mr. Rosfeld's handling of the incident.

In their closings Friday afternoon, the attorneys chose very different pieces of evidence on which to focus.

Mr. Thomassey zoomed in on the drive-by shooting that preceded the encounter between Mr. Rosfeld and Antwon, and their reaction to being pulled over.

"Mr. Rosfeld didn't wake up that day and decide to shoot someone" but Antwon Rose II and Zaijuan Hester did, he told the jury.

"If Rose and Hester did nothing wrong, why did they run?" he asked jurors. "You and I wouldn't do that." Then he answered his own question. "They knew what they did, and they wanted to get away."

He sought to cast doubt on the video evidence in the case, emphasizing that the videos were recorded by witnesses who were some distance from the scene. Mr. Rosfeld, by contrast, was about eight yards away from Antwon when he fired, the defense attorney said.

At one point, he stood a few feet from the jury and lifted a gun that had been used as evidence in the case, pointing it at the wall beside the jury.

"About that far," he said over the weapon. "About eight yards. Who had a better view of what was happening?"

Prosecutor Jonathan Fodi countered in closing that Mr. Rosfeld could not have reasonably felt threatened by Antwon.

"Every single time the defendant pulled the trigger and pointed it at Antwon Rose's body, he had the intent to kill. Every one of them is backward to frontward. Every one of them at a time when Antwon Rose posed no risk to Michael Rosfeld," the prosecutor said.

"When an officer fails to wait for backup; fails to give commands; when they deceive us; when they point a deadly weapon at a 17-year-old running away, that rises to the level of murder," he said.


Staff writer Liz Navratil contributed. Paula Reed Ward: pward@post-gazette.com, 412-263-2620 or on Twitter, @PaulaReedWard; Shelly Bradbury: sbradbury@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1999 or on Twitter, @ShellyBradbury.

The most disturbing thing about this, was an interview done with Antwon's mom.

When she was asked why her son was with Hestor, who was in a possession of a stolen firearm, and had violated his probation by removing his ankle monitoring device, her comment was, "I don't want to answer that". I genuinely feel sorry for her, she lost her son, and she didn't get in the "limelight" that so often happens in these tragedies.

What exactly were the firearm violations? Obviously they were minors. What were the others?

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Video shows Antwon Rose firing weapon in earlier drive-by shooting

From the link:

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SUNDAY, JULY 8:
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Demonstrators told Channel 11 a crowd plowed through the crowd on Route 30, hitting five people.

Who writes this crap? I'm a better writer and I don't even write for a living.

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"Mr. Rosfeld didn't wake up that day and decide to shoot someone" but Antwon Rose II and Zaijuan Hester did, he told the jury.

They set it all in motion, they reap the consequences.